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Topic: Name a 410 Sprintcar Driver ( Born ) in Iowa to Win A WOO A MAIN ? Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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Langhorne
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February 14, 2018 at 10:13:08 AM
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Posted By: railfan33 on February 14 2018 at 07:11:47 AM

Geographic boundaries of “Posse land” where the majority of owners and drivers reside is limited to 12 (arguably) counties in southeastern Penna. 2015-2016 population 2,528,095. I doubt anyone in Philly even knows what a sprint car is.



I hestitate to reply to such an obviously stupid post, but as another (in)famous poster to this site soften says, "Sometimes you just have to pick the low hanging fruit."

Railfan33 you can rest assured there are, and always have been, more than a few people in the Philly area who know what a sprint car is.  And by the Philly area I am including the immediate suburbs, where those milliions of people you don't want to claim as living in 'central Pa', live.  Perhaps you have heard of Frankie Kerr, who grew up in one of those suburbs and started out driving a car from another.  Or maybe you've heard of Fred Rahmer, similar story there.  Damn, they might even have a victory or two against the WoO, whattaya think?  And there are quite a few more, and check this out, WoO didn't invent sprint cars, they were being raced in the Philly area long before Ted came along.

Ever heard of Hatfield, or Reading, East Windsor, Grandview, Vineland, or maybe Langhorne?  (All located in the Philly metro area, according to Wikipedia.)

Or are you one of those sprint car experts who never ventures outside of Pennsyltucky?



Murphy
February 14, 2018 at 10:24:31 AM
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     I thought Fred Rahmer was from the Philly area(?).



sapper211
February 14, 2018 at 10:36:58 AM
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This message was edited on February 14, 2018 at 10:38:36 AM by sapper211
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Posted By: Murphy on February 14 2018 at 09:59:59 AM

    You're correct, but like I said. I only went through the top 21. Then again, I'm not sure if Dobmeier lives in Grand Forks North Dakota, or East Grand Forks Minnesota, so that might mess up the Minnesota count as well.

      If you tallied up all the states represented (and at least one foreign country) you'd see more listed in Pennsylvania, Ohio, California and several other states. Maybe EZ2BEME or somebody could do that tally. Maybe he already has. I don't know. Imagine how many * would be required. Did a Canadian ever win a WoO feature?

    In the end, we're all sprint car fans. It doesn't make a lick of sense to break it down to teams of us verses them. We should be glad that we have a common interest.

"My team rocks, so your team must suck!". Whatever. The only problem I have with Pennsylvania sprint cars is that their season starts like, end of February, 1st part of March(?) Ours in South Dakota starts about never.



Agreed Murphy!!   Well, if we could convince P. Diddy Sanford to come forward and buy Badlands we would have some sprint cars close to home.  Think how much business a race track could drum up for a hospital!! Probably not as much business as 15 football fields and 5 basketeball courts and all the other stick and ball sports they sponsor.   But....I will be hitting Jackson, Casino and Jefferson again this year.  May try to run down to the USAC midgets in Nebraska, too. 


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Bruce

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blazer00
February 14, 2018 at 12:48:22 PM
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This message was edited on February 14, 2018 at 12:49:08 PM by blazer00

(to anybody not from Iowa) Iowa has never been over populated with sprint car drivers, and that's a fact we've always lived with. But, we have the Knoxville Nationals, AND YOU DON'T!!!!    Smile



Murphy
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This message was edited on February 14, 2018 at 05:36:08 PM by Murphy
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Posted By: Murphy on February 14 2018 at 08:07:22 AM

     My bad. I thought this was just a general interest / trivia thing, not an invintation to join in another worthless pissing contest.

From the WoO website, here are the totals of WoO final night feature wins per home state of the driver. To be honest, I only went through the top 20 (Top 21 actually, as #20 is a tie). This doesn't take into account a bunch of guys with just a handful of wins or less. Nor does it enter into the other pissing match about whether someone like Hodnett is, or is not Posse, blah, blah, blah.

Top 12 states:
Indiana 839
Tennessee 370
North Dakota 249
Oklahoma 129
Ohio 126
Pennsylvania 125
California 108
South Dakota 107
Missouri 90
Minnesota 59
Connecticut 39

      As you can see, Pennsylvania is solidly in the top 6. A more interesting data point (at least based op the top 21) is that North Dakota, South Dakota, Missouri, Minnesota and Connecticut totals are for one driver!

     Anyway, it's the internet and folks will need to point out where everything I've written is wrong.

 



     In the interest of fairness and out of curiosity, I went through most of the rest of the winners' field and tried to talley the stats by state. Admitedly, it's hard to find where some of the drivers are from when you get down to the racers with one win. There's a dozen on the list I can't figure out where they are from and 4 I've never heard of.


A closer talley:
IN 857
TN 391
ND 252
PA 222
CA 188
OH 183
OK 137
SD 108
MO 95
MN 59
CT 39
Australia (I know- not a state, but damned impressive) 37
IN 24
AZ 16
IA 13
NM 10
LA 9
TX 5
MY 4
WI 1
Canada 1 (Yep- Tim Gee)
 

 



Johnny Utah
February 14, 2018 at 02:50:43 PM
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I've never sought validation for myself as a person by the using the accomplishments of others. It reeks of desperation.

By the way, I'm from the Philly area and was basically born at the racetrack, and I don't mean Delaware Park either.



railfan33
February 14, 2018 at 03:46:46 PM
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Posted By: Langhorne on February 14 2018 at 10:13:08 AM

I hestitate to reply to such an obviously stupid post, but as another (in)famous poster to this site soften says, "Sometimes you just have to pick the low hanging fruit."

Railfan33 you can rest assured there are, and always have been, more than a few people in the Philly area who know what a sprint car is.  And by the Philly area I am including the immediate suburbs, where those milliions of people you don't want to claim as living in 'central Pa', live.  Perhaps you have heard of Frankie Kerr, who grew up in one of those suburbs and started out driving a car from another.  Or maybe you've heard of Fred Rahmer, similar story there.  Damn, they might even have a victory or two against the WoO, whattaya think?  And there are quite a few more, and check this out, WoO didn't invent sprint cars, they were being raced in the Philly area long before Ted came along.

Ever heard of Hatfield, or Reading, East Windsor, Grandview, Vineland, or maybe Langhorne?  (All located in the Philly metro area, according to Wikipedia.)

Or are you one of those sprint car experts who never ventures outside of Pennsyltucky?



Lighten up Langhorne, just meant to be a light hearted comment. I know where Fred Rahmer lives, it ain’t Philly. When was the last time   Winged 410 sprints ran at Hatfield, East Windsor, Vineland, or Langhorne for that matter?

I was responding to a poster comparing the state population of Penna to that of Iowa. The point I was trying to make is, Posse country is generally considered an area limited to several counties in south central Pa, not the entire state. So the comparison, IMO, was apples to oranges and germaine to the discussion.

As to your last insulting question, I live in Mechanicsburg and have been attending races for over 50 years supporting local tracks primarily. I’ve been to Eldora, Knoxville, and head south to Volusia every February with my son. 

 



MandGRacing96
February 14, 2018 at 04:38:50 PM
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Posted By: railfan33 on February 14 2018 at 03:46:46 PM

Lighten up Langhorne, just meant to be a light hearted comment. I know where Fred Rahmer lives, it ain’t Philly. When was the last time   Winged 410 sprints ran at Hatfield, East Windsor, Vineland, or Langhorne for that matter?

I was responding to a poster comparing the state population of Penna to that of Iowa. The point I was trying to make is, Posse country is generally considered an area limited to several counties in south central Pa, not the entire state. So the comparison, IMO, was apples to oranges and germaine to the discussion.

As to your last insulting question, I live in Mechanicsburg and have been attending races for over 50 years supporting local tracks primarily. I’ve been to Eldora, Knoxville, and head south to Volusia every February with my son. 

 



Oregon should have 1, shouldnt they?  Roger Crockett won a WoO race and I think he was from Grants Pass Or at the time.



Murphy
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Posted By: MandGRacing96 on February 14 2018 at 04:38:50 PM

Oregon should have 1, shouldnt they?  Roger Crockett won a WoO race and I think he was from Grants Pass Or at the time.



     Probably . Crockett was one of the racers that I couldn't easily find a home state for. It's probably also safe to say he has more WoO Feature wins than any other driver from Oregon



sprintfanatic
February 14, 2018 at 05:09:07 PM
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MS 95 - I think you mean MO (Missouri).  MS is Mississippi.  I do not know how Missouri got MO but that has been around for many years, not just the 2 digit abbreviation years.  In the old days Mississippi was abbreviated Miss.



Johnny Gibson
February 14, 2018 at 05:33:16 PM
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Not 100% sure, but wasn't Roger Crockett born in CA?  (IF you're looking at state of birth . . .) 



Murphy
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Posted By: sprintfanatic on February 14 2018 at 05:09:07 PM

MS 95 - I think you mean MO (Missouri).  MS is Mississippi.  I do not know how Missouri got MO but that has been around for many years, not just the 2 digit abbreviation years.  In the old days Mississippi was abbreviated Miss.



    Thanks. I fixed that. 



revjimk
February 14, 2018 at 07:24:46 PM
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Posted By: sprintfanatic on February 14 2018 at 05:09:07 PM

MS 95 - I think you mean MO (Missouri).  MS is Mississippi.  I do not know how Missouri got MO but that has been around for many years, not just the 2 digit abbreviation years.  In the old days Mississippi was abbreviated Miss.



Mo? This is Silly season, right? so here goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o84Xhs6n878



revjimk
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Posted By: revjimk on February 14 2018 at 07:24:46 PM

Mo? This is Silly season, right? so here goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o84Xhs6n878



Couldn't get that link thing to work. Copy & paste if you're ready for Silly Season Finale



ohReally?
February 14, 2018 at 07:28:02 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 14 2018 at 01:05:17 PM

     In the interest of fairness and out of curiosity, I went through most of the rest of the winners' field and tried to talley the stats by state. Admitedly, it's hard to find where some of the drivers are from when you get down to the racers with one win. There's a dozen on the list I can't figure out where they are from and 4 I've never heard of.


A closer talley:
IN 857
TN 391
ND 252
PA 222
CA 188
OH 183
OK 137
SD 108
MO 95
MN 59
CT 39
Australia (I know- not a state, but damned impressive) 37
IN 24
AZ 16
IA 13
NM 10
LA 9
TX 5
MY 4
WI 1
Canada 1 (Yep- Tim Gee)
 

 



I’m wondering who you have as a winner from WI?

 

Note, Alaska should have one as that is where Bill Balog is from.



Murphy
February 14, 2018 at 09:41:27 PM
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Posted By: ohReally? on February 14 2018 at 07:28:02 PM

I’m wondering who you have as a winner from WI?

 

Note, Alaska should have one as that is where Bill Balog is from.



We made need some more *

Using that criteria, I'm from Alaska, as I was born there too. I haven't been there since 1972.



Hytfod
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Lol @ that Indiana tally wink ... G.O.A.T. 



HatCreek66
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So does Jeff Sheppard(Upperco, MD) Outlaw totals (4) go to PA or does he get his own catagory with MD?? Just asking for a friend....Smile



StanM
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Posted By: blazer00 on February 14 2018 at 12:48:22 PM

(to anybody not from Iowa) Iowa has never been over populated with sprint car drivers, and that's a fact we've always lived with. But, we have the Knoxville Nationals, AND YOU DON'T!!!!    Smile



Iowa and the surrounding states are overrun by modified (IMCA type) and stock car fans and drivers.  Knoxville is like a Sprint Car island in the middle of the state. 


Stan Meissner

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February 15, 2018 at 12:33:06 PM
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Posted By: railfan33 on February 14 2018 at 07:11:47 AM

Geographic boundaries of “Posse land” where the majority of owners and drivers reside is limited to 12 (arguably) counties in southeastern Penna. 2015-2016 population 2,528,095. I doubt anyone in Philly even knows what a sprint car is.



I have a military buddy that lives in Philly.  Him and a group of 10 make it to 10 or so races a year out there and even have WoO watch partys where a lot of people show up to watch. 





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