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minthess
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July 11, 2017 at 01:28:32 PM
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A guy that runs one in a red 83 in Illinois.  Can't think of his name.  Mulitple guys that worked for RoushYates.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

dirtraceorbust
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July 11, 2017 at 01:46:05 PM
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"Ford engineers starting from scratch", certainly true, you won't see a new "Ford" sprint car motor that has any relation to a Ford Motor that sits in or has sat in a production Ford car or truck.  As opposed to the SBC which evolved from the 1955 265 c.i. Chevrolet engine, which went to 283, 302, 307, 327 and 350 cubic inches.  Certainly the sbc sprint engine has state of the art internal metals (pistons, valves, rods, block, heads, etc), but the basic sbc engine design is still there and has been sold in more than one-hundred million vehicles as of 2011 (and received major recognition for this landmark number)  and still the primary engine of Chevy and GMC pickup trucks today and sold in today's Corvettes and Camaros from 400 HP to 750 HP..  Still used today in the GMC and Chevy trucks. The same engine that has totally dominated dirt track racing in all classes of cars at tracks across America, still today.  Go to your local track.  Find out if there are any Ford engines in the street stock class, the Wissota Mods class, the IMCA mods class, the late models, super late models, and sprint cars. 

 

 


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Seattle, LA  Who the H runs those cities. 

minthess
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"Ford engineers starting from scratch", certainly true, you won't see a new "Ford" sprint car motor that has any relation to a Ford Motor that sits in or has sat in a production Ford car or truck.  As opposed to the SBC which evolved from the 1955 265 c.i. Chevrolet engine, which went to 283, 302, 307, 327 and 350 cubic inches.  Certainly the sbc sprint engine has state of the art internal metals (pistons, valves, rods, block, heads, etc), but the basic sbc engine design is still there and has been sold in more than one-hundred million vehicles as of 2011 (and received major recognition for this landmark number)  and still the primary engine of Chevy and GMC pickup trucks today and sold in today's Corvettes and Camaros from 400 HP to 750 HP..  Still used today in the GMC and Chevy trucks. The same engine that has totally dominated dirt track racing in all classes of cars at tracks across America, still today.  Go to your local track.  Find out if there are any Ford engines in the street stock class, the Wissota Mods class, the IMCA mods class, the late models, super late models, and sprint cars. 

 

 



 

The only dirt track division with somewhat open engine rules is super dirt late model racing and multiple styles of Ford engines dominate the professional series not sbcs.  Sbcs thrive when the rule book basically mandates most traditional sbc traits.   The Ford engine that is coming is just as similar to what came in my 65 Mustang as the current 410 is to that in a 65 Chevelle.   The small block heads that have been in factory GM cars for the last 15 years are more like my 289 than a 283.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


minthess
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July 11, 2017 at 02:11:15 PM
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The guys that told me have shared lots of things they certainly didn't need to.  I don't see a need to name them. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Dryslick Willie
July 11, 2017 at 02:18:58 PM
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Posted By: minthess on July 11 2017 at 02:11:15 PM

The guys that told me have shared lots of things they certainly didn't need to.  I don't see a need to name them. 



I doubt you've talked to anybody.    How convenient that you all of a sudden can't remember names or you can't name them because they leaked classified information to you that they weren't supposed to.    



minthess
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July 11, 2017 at 02:32:51 PM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on July 11 2017 at 02:18:58 PM

I doubt you've talked to anybody.    How convenient that you all of a sudden can't remember names or you can't name them because they leaked classified information to you that they weren't supposed to.    



I have harrassed everyone ever affiliated with the dirt program at RoushYates.  Trust me. LOL


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


Dryslick Willie
July 11, 2017 at 02:38:33 PM
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on July 11 2017 at 01:46:05 PM

"Ford engineers starting from scratch", certainly true, you won't see a new "Ford" sprint car motor that has any relation to a Ford Motor that sits in or has sat in a production Ford car or truck.  As opposed to the SBC which evolved from the 1955 265 c.i. Chevrolet engine, which went to 283, 302, 307, 327 and 350 cubic inches.  Certainly the sbc sprint engine has state of the art internal metals (pistons, valves, rods, block, heads, etc), but the basic sbc engine design is still there and has been sold in more than one-hundred million vehicles as of 2011 (and received major recognition for this landmark number)  and still the primary engine of Chevy and GMC pickup trucks today and sold in today's Corvettes and Camaros from 400 HP to 750 HP..  Still used today in the GMC and Chevy trucks. The same engine that has totally dominated dirt track racing in all classes of cars at tracks across America, still today.  Go to your local track.  Find out if there are any Ford engines in the street stock class, the Wissota Mods class, the IMCA mods class, the late models, super late models, and sprint cars. 

 

 



I can answer that one.   My brother used to own a limited modified that runs at Devils Bowl.    There was another guy that ran against them that was/is almost as mental about running Fords.   I don't know how much he spent of course, but I'm pretty sure he was spending more on those Fords than my brother was on a Chevy.    This guy occasionally ran well, but he could not keep the Ford engines from blowing up on him.    Last time I saw him at Devils Bowl he had a Chevy in it.   



motorhead748
July 12, 2017 at 05:47:52 AM
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"Ford engineers starting from scratch", certainly true, you won't see a new "Ford" sprint car motor that has any relation to a Ford Motor that sits in or has sat in a production Ford car or truck.  As opposed to the SBC which evolved from the 1955 265 c.i. Chevrolet engine, which went to 283, 302, 307, 327 and 350 cubic inches.  Certainly the sbc sprint engine has state of the art internal metals (pistons, valves, rods, block, heads, etc), but the basic sbc engine design is still there and has been sold in more than one-hundred million vehicles as of 2011 (and received major recognition for this landmark number)  and still the primary engine of Chevy and GMC pickup trucks today and sold in today's Corvettes and Camaros from 400 HP to 750 HP..  Still used today in the GMC and Chevy trucks. The same engine that has totally dominated dirt track racing in all classes of cars at tracks across America, still today.  Go to your local track.  Find out if there are any Ford engines in the street stock class, the Wissota Mods class, the IMCA mods class, the late models, super late models, and sprint cars. 

 

 



The LS family of engines found in today's trucks, camaros & vettes is a sbc in name only.  you may call them a descendent if you want but it'd be no different than saying a new ford is a descendent of the model T, there is about the same similarity. And while today's 410's can trace their roots to the traditional sbc there is not one bolt on them that comes from GM. 



Dryslick Willie
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Actually I think Minthess needs to forget about sprint car racing and just follow and be a fan of late models.   That way he would be in the middle of the Ford utopia where Chevys don't have a chance and maybe then life would be fair...




minthess
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July 12, 2017 at 11:11:40 AM
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Actually I think Minthess needs to forget about sprint car racing and just follow and be a fan of late models.   That way he would be in the middle of the Ford utopia where Chevys don't have a chance and maybe then life would be fair...



Youre so right.  If they werent as big and goofy looking as the cookie monster, I would. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Murphy
July 12, 2017 at 11:38:50 AM
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     Why is it just the Fords that people worry about? Whe I first started going to the races (1973), the various classes of cars had Chevies, Fords, GMs, Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, Studebakers and ans DeSotos.

  Now, the gol-darned WoO won't even let a guy run a competitive DeSoto any more. I tell ya- it's a conspiracy.



Dryslick Willie
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Youre so right.  If they werent as big and goofy looking as the cookie monster, I would. 



Actually I can completely relate to that.   I'm not a fan of the batmobiles either...




alum.427
July 12, 2017 at 11:43:15 AM
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OK. #1, today's sprint car motor is called a chevy for what reason ? Nobody is using a Chevy block. Nobody is using a Chevy head. It really hasn't been a chevy for years. The skirted alum. block may look the same, the camshaft centerline is not were chevy enginered it. The heads have different runner lenghts and valve angles. So why would FORD be designing a engine that the top builders would only change anyhow ? If anything is going on, maybe Ron Shaver (west coast) or Don Ott (east coast)  are getting all tooled up to spend BIG bucks on a new block and a set of heads to sell to 1 team right now, TSR racing. Yea that sounds like a profit maker to me. People say why does the 15 car have a blue oval on the side of it ? Well it sure as heck isn't a chevy anymore either. Wait, what about the crank, naaaaa. The rods , I doubt it. Pistons, O heck no. Soooooooooo, I say that must be the reason DS hasn't been on top of his game this year. That blue oval on the side of his hood has him all screwed up. Ricky Warner better sit him down before the month of money and explain it to him. There is no ford branding of a new motor, we were just screwing with people's heads.



minthess
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As soon as Josh Richards replaces his chev with an ol D3 Ford, he goes from about fifth place to first place.  Been that way since RoushYates built a dozen outlaw sprint car engines several years ago.  Not a single RY sprint car engine came with heads like Richards has been dominating with for 5 years or the new Ford heads that Bloomquist runs because the WoO wouldn't let them run.  Names their mothers gave the RY employees are immaterial.  Look at the facts we can see with our own eyes.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

JCWRacing
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July 12, 2017 at 01:19:19 PM
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http://www.woosprint.com/images/stories/MainImages/PDF/2017SprintRulebookWeb.pdf





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