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dukur
December 01, 2020 at 06:34:54 PM
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Just wondered what those of you on the west coast think about the non wing classes diminishing and why. We race in the 360,s and always thought it would stay viable but now I dont know. Do you think winged has become so popular that no one is interested or are there other concerns. Thanks for your replies




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December 02, 2020 at 04:09:47 AM
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This message was edited on December 02, 2020 at 04:38:56 AM by [email protected]

I'll represent.....been atennding exsclusively Both non & winged from 12yrs old with pop starting at Doug Forts 1/3 high banked clay in Santa Maria.(NARC ran without wing as CRA) starting in 1976 up till Trophy Cup 2017 as a cancer Diagnoses has reduced my attendance dramaticly. Been to many Ca tracks for sprints, midgets and at times mini and micros because...for me and my two grown boys (31 & 30 yrs today whom I needed to double carry in arms  to parking lot after visiting pits ) there is no more thrilling form of auto racing. Sprints, any engine dispacemet or, configuration out here on the heavy bullrings especially multi-day larger payout shows, are filled with drivers/owners and talent that dose NOT leave Cali fans disappointed. In fact, we can follow their carriers to the most elite sanctions in the world.....and, prove no other sprint racing reigion/ sanction, produces talent that is superior in, skill or marketability (G. Snider; J. Gorden; B.Sweet; J. Myers; Kaedings; are a tiny few........ Rico.....Copland..T-Mez....Macedo) So....for my boys and I, we see familliar faces, long time friends and, our racing family at the dirt track. We've seen weak and, hudge car counts, inceradeble compition, death on track, yet,  trough the years, it is who we are, sprint car racing fans on a bonded level. Covid19 and the fact that I am lean on time due to cancer. We are looking anxiously forward to spring 2021. For me, I've many to thank for their prayers and incradable deeds of unselfish actions, to get one more chance to see each other at the dirt track. For us its......UP On the fence rooting, hooting, fist pumping our favs at speed, thrilling the shit out of US and, full grandstands behind us. 

   My buck n' a Quarter on how we feel.

Peace & bring a newbie to the tracks. Some get the fever and, become what make this form of racing great. Enduring friends... who truly care for fellow fans and, that make memories that rival the love I have for family. 


  From central coast of Cali.
   Peace, Out.

JVan
December 03, 2020 at 06:25:26 PM
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Posted By: dukur on December 01 2020 at 06:34:54 PM

Just wondered what those of you on the west coast think about the non wing classes diminishing and why. We race in the 360,s and always thought it would stay viable but now I dont know. Do you think winged has become so popular that no one is interested or are there other concerns. Thanks for your replies



I attended wingless sprint car races in Southern California from the time I moved there in 1974 until I left in 2008. After NARC went to wings, wingless sprints became almost exclusively a Southern California thing. They would travel to central valley tracks like Hanford, Tulare, Bakersfield, Santa Maria and others, but most of the races were at Ascot and later at Perris. Central and Northern California are defintely wing country. When Ascot closed there was an existing fanbase for the wingless cars and many of those fans would make the much longer trek to Perris. Not all of them did, but enough did that, added to the locals, attendance remained strong at Perris. So strong, in fact, that they were able to hold 2 or more sprint car races a month with no supporting classes for several years. The racing that the SCRA produced was a superior product and the 1990's were a golden age for California wingless racing. The writing was on the wall, though, in the prevalence of more and more white hair in the stands and fewer younger people. In short, the Southern California racing mecca that had existed since the very earliest days of racing was no more.  It seemed that it was getting more and more difficult to attract new and younger fans to keep it up, especially in this age of of having so many entertainment choices. Add to that the retirement of many of the best drivers along with the advent of the USAC sanction and things started to go downhill. To this fan, it seems that SCRA was a much better organization than USAC, to whom west coast sprint cars are the redheaded step child. In my opinion, their interests and energies lie in their national sprint cars in Indiana. As for the rest of the California, I think they prefer winged cars. I'll be honest and say that I am less familiar with the wingless 360s, but I would be willing to bet that the reasons are the same as what has befallen the 410s in Southern California. I think that new fans are drawn more to the pure speed that the wings provide instead of the slower wingless cars. Many casual fans don't appreciate the finesse that a wingless car requires and want that speed. 

All this is, of course, my opinion and is based upon my observations as a fan. It is disappointing to see the class slowly withering in the state.





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