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Topic: Toyota Engines 2021 Sprint Car Season ?? Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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El Wingador
October 29, 2020 at 03:42:12 PM
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Earlier in the year I heard some rumblings of Toyota making the move into the sprint car world with Chris Bell and supposedly a fulltime sprint car driver. I never heard of who that driver may be or even if it would happen in the upcoming 2021 season.

  1. Does it happen at all?
  2. Does it happen in 2021?
  3. Do they run an open schedule or a series?
  4. Will they be competitive?
  5. Who's the driver?

 




Sprinter#4
October 29, 2020 at 03:47:57 PM
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Engines are almost done.

my guess is mid 2021 if at all

my guess is open next season, outlaws 2022

they are stupid fast in every other form of racing, so why not.

my guess Aaron Ruetzel.



El Wingador
October 29, 2020 at 04:11:42 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter#4 on October 29 2020 at 03:47:57 PM

Engines are almost done.

my guess is mid 2021 if at all

my guess is open next season, outlaws 2022

they are stupid fast in every other form of racing, so why not.

my guess Aaron Ruetzel.



 

Hell, it can’t be a bad thing, nothing like some good competition. I’m with you, they are fast wherever they run. If all this was in the works before anything was announced or leaked, they might be there for the start of 2021 season. I also think they would run an open schedule, then run for points after the bugs are worked out. Could be Reutzel, but Bell is tight with a few drivers.




beezr2002
October 29, 2020 at 04:32:19 PM
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Posted By: El Wingador on October 29 2020 at 04:11:42 PM

 

Hell, it can’t be a bad thing, nothing like some good competition. I’m with you, they are fast wherever they run. If all this was in the works before anything was announced or leaked, they might be there for the start of 2021 season. I also think they would run an open schedule, then run for points after the bugs are worked out. Could be Reutzel, but Bell is tight with a few drivers.



It might not be a good  thing, Toyota throws a ton of money at whatever they pursue. You think engines are expensive now, wait until Toyota gets in the game if they do. I know of a certain open wheel class that if you don't have a Toyota based engine your chances to be competitive are not real good , I imagine it could go the same way with sprint cars.



egras
October 29, 2020 at 04:43:16 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on October 29 2020 at 04:32:19 PM

It might not be a good  thing, Toyota throws a ton of money at whatever they pursue. You think engines are expensive now, wait until Toyota gets in the game if they do. I know of a certain open wheel class that if you don't have a Toyota based engine your chances to be competitive are not real good , I imagine it could go the same way with sprint cars.



Maybe cast iron blocks and Holley 4 barrels are the answer to this problem..............................or, maybe we move forward.  



beezr2002
October 29, 2020 at 05:32:28 PM
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Posted By: egras on October 29 2020 at 04:43:16 PM

Maybe cast iron blocks and Holley 4 barrels are the answer to this problem..............................or, maybe we move forward.  



Very progressive of you. Most people that don't have to pay the bills don't mind spending other peoples money. Not a big fan of cubic dollars, but the cars really need to be unhooked. Sprints might end up like the the drag racing scene that went from a quarter mile to 1000 ft. because the cars were going to fast for the facilities. People already say the cars are getting to fast and expensive and we are losing some teams due to expense .

 




El Wingador
October 29, 2020 at 06:01:33 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on October 29 2020 at 05:32:28 PM

Very progressive of you. Most people that don't have to pay the bills don't mind spending other peoples money. Not a big fan of cubic dollars, but the cars really need to be unhooked. Sprints might end up like the the drag racing scene that went from a quarter mile to 1000 ft. because the cars were going to fast for the facilities. People already say the cars are getting to fast and expensive and we are losing some teams due to expense .

 



This thread isn't about engine costs and where the sport may or may not be heading. I knew it was going to go this way and almost asked you guys to leave engine costs out of it. But true to the HH forum way, people direct threads in a complete opposite way from the original post. If you want to talk about how engine prices are killing the sport, or how the cars are going too fast for the drivers, you can always start your own thread.



RodinCanada
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October 29, 2020 at 07:47:57 PM
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Perhaps an engine manufacturers championship.point race could be developed.


Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

alum.427
October 29, 2020 at 08:54:36 PM
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The factor nobody has touched on is woo. They are not going to let Toyota development have a free hand. Look at what TSR and Ron Shaver had to go through to get the new Ford motor approved.




jah42
October 30, 2020 at 07:44:17 AM
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What every hoops they have to jump through I'm sure they have done some or all of this. There not a company spending money without know what has to be done.

 

 

 

 



beezr2002
October 30, 2020 at 08:40:40 AM
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 Didn't you read the OPs  post about staying on topic.LOL.   He doesn't want to read about expenses.LOL  He's a little sensitive I guess.



El Wingador
October 30, 2020 at 09:06:17 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on October 30 2020 at 08:40:40 AM

 Didn't you read the OPs  post about staying on topic.LOL.   He doesn't want to read about expenses.LOL  He's a little sensitive I guess.



  Not sensitive at all guy, the motor expense topic and how's it's killing the sport has been ran throuh the forum a few times. As well as thread hijacking. Im not one to hold my tounge, I call it like I see it. 




MoOpenwheel
October 30, 2020 at 09:06:37 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on October 30 2020 at 08:40:40 AM

 Didn't you read the OPs  post about staying on topic.LOL.   He doesn't want to read about expenses.LOL  He's a little sensitive I guess.



Opps.  I guess I skipped over that post.  I'll be good poster and delete it.  



beezr2002
October 30, 2020 at 10:07:48 AM
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Posted By: El Wingador on October 30 2020 at 09:06:17 AM

  Not sensitive at all guy, the motor expense topic and how's it's killing the sport has been ran throuh the forum a few times. As well as thread hijacking. Im not one to hold my tounge, I call it like I see it. 



I did mention Toyota and racing, don't really think that was hijacking but if you say so.  I was replying to your post that mentioned "hell, it can't be a bad thing". Good thing I didn't bring up the china virus that would have really sent you into a spin.  Thanks for the fun.



El Wingador
October 30, 2020 at 10:34:32 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on October 30 2020 at 10:07:48 AM

I did mention Toyota and racing, don't really think that was hijacking but if you say so.  I was replying to your post that mentioned "hell, it can't be a bad thing". Good thing I didn't bring up the china virus that would have really sent you into a spin.  Thanks for the fun.



lol you read way more into than wrote. But take it for what you think it is lol

 

 




revjimk
October 30, 2020 at 12:23:57 PM
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Posted By: El Wingador on October 29 2020 at 06:01:33 PM

This thread isn't about engine costs and where the sport may or may not be heading. I knew it was going to go this way and almost asked you guys to leave engine costs out of it. But true to the HH forum way, people direct threads in a complete opposite way from the original post. If you want to talk about how engine prices are killing the sport, or how the cars are going too fast for the drivers, you can always start your own thread.



"almost asked you guys to leave engine costs out of it"....

Then you should have said it. Engine costs are a relevant offshoot of your announcement

At least we're not arguing about "you know  what"....



El Wingador
October 30, 2020 at 01:37:13 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 30 2020 at 12:23:57 PM

"almost asked you guys to leave engine costs out of it"....

Then you should have said it. Engine costs are a relevant offshoot of your announcement

At least we're not arguing about "you know  what"....



No doubt, I should have .... lol

Gave to much credit to the brain trust.



tenter
October 30, 2020 at 03:50:22 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on October 29 2020 at 08:54:36 PM

The factor nobody has touched on is woo. They are not going to let Toyota development have a free hand. Look at what TSR and Ron Shaver had to go through to get the new Ford motor approved.



The Toyota has already been approved by the WoO.

 




beezr2002
October 30, 2020 at 04:29:08 PM
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I know this might be a bit off topic but is the Toyota sprint car engine based off of the same platform as the USAC silver crown engine? Interesting to know that its WoO approved already.



El Wingador
October 30, 2020 at 04:34:12 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on October 30 2020 at 04:29:08 PM

I know this might be a bit off topic but is the Toyota sprint car engine based off of the same platform as the USAC silver crown engine? Interesting to know that its WoO approved already.



Dammit man !  you got me ok  ... lol

Just run with it !! I want to know too ! Lol 





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