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wolfie2985
January 20, 2017 at 12:12:26 PM
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Well, Ford guys, this is your big chance. Me thinks you may finally have someone with the resources to pull it off. Everyone else ran out of money. Just sayin'




minthess
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January 20, 2017 at 12:57:44 PM
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Perfect timing Ford's history has been one or two titles every 10 or 15 years .NASCAR parity definedSmile


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

minthess
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January 20, 2017 at 02:01:58 PM
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Shaver is helping with Nascar engines?


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


minthess
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January 20, 2017 at 02:07:32 PM
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Did I miss something?  Is this thread about Napcar or Smoke's dirt track cars?


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

minthess
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January 20, 2017 at 02:21:37 PM
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Lol. Common sense can get you in trouble these days. I havent seen any announcements except for the mess called Nascar. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Dzus Button
January 20, 2017 at 02:48:30 PM
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I'm surprised no one saw this yet....it's in this article right here:

http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2017/01/19/tony-stewart-keeping-dirt-track-schedule-quiet-but-open-wheel-teams-expected-to-have-high-visibility-support/

 

 




minthess
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January 20, 2017 at 03:03:25 PM
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This message was edited on January 20, 2017 at 03:35:43 PM by minthess
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Posted By: Dzus Button on January 20 2017 at 02:48:30 PM

I'm surprised no one saw this yet....it's in this article right here:

http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2017/01/19/tony-stewart-keeping-dirt-track-schedule-quiet-but-open-wheel-teams-expected-to-have-high-visibility-support/

 

 



Interesting. "confirmed to be likely" isnt cool but still interesting. Thanks


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

revjimk
January 20, 2017 at 09:37:20 PM
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This message was edited on January 21, 2017 at 03:49:15 PM by revjimk
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Posted By: Dzus Button on January 20 2017 at 02:48:30 PM

I'm surprised no one saw this yet....it's in this article right here:

http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2017/01/19/tony-stewart-keeping-dirt-track-schedule-quiet-but-open-wheel-teams-expected-to-have-high-visibility-support/

 

 



Wow, that is interesting. So does that mean The Mighty Schatz would go Ford????

Minthess will be flippin' out....



91RI
January 20, 2017 at 11:14:21 PM
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The best part will be minthess claiming that Ford is the reason Shatz is kicking ass, not the other way around.




egras
January 20, 2017 at 11:17:57 PM
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Holy Cow!!  Tony will have Ford emblems on everything!!!  I think they are slightly more aerodynamic than the Chevy logo.  That's important..................since that's the only thing on these cars Ford or Chevy.   (besides the composite molded grills)

 

Won't make one damned bit of difference in either sport---with the exception of which grill gets an extra 1/4" of spoiler etc, etc.

 

I wish everyone would quit pretending motorsports still run American cars.  (or Toyotas for that matter)   They would do everyone a great service if they would just end the make believe association with the auto-makers in Nascar.  Everyone has that uncle that watches the race in the back yard on a couch and a tv with foil on the rabbit ears that refused to root for Tony because he was driving a Toyota,, right?  



fordfan
January 21, 2017 at 12:06:29 AM
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Shaver building Casey Luna’s engines?



wolfie2985
January 21, 2017 at 06:05:07 AM
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Often lost in the Ford conversation is Bob Fetter in central PA. I believe he was a few years ahead of Casey Luna - and proportionally as successful.

Who built Fetter's engines?

As I recall, they made more power than the Chevies, but were heavier, and much more expensive - like twice the price. 

I'm not a Ford guy, but I can't think of a downside to a brand rivalry. 




Redman
January 21, 2017 at 12:05:19 PM
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If, and I mean if, Shatz switches to Ford engines in his WOO sprint he will not repeat as the series champion. Now maybe, half way thru the season they might want to switch back to Chevy to help salvage the season, but here again that will never happen. With Tony, Donnie & Rickie already having thier bank accounts stocked, they will be told by Ford "suck it up & race.

 

A wise man once said  "follow the money"


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Dryslick Willie
January 21, 2017 at 02:49:29 PM
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Posted By: Redman on January 21 2017 at 12:05:19 PM

If, and I mean if, Shatz switches to Ford engines in his WOO sprint he will not repeat as the series champion. Now maybe, half way thru the season they might want to switch back to Chevy to help salvage the season, but here again that will never happen. With Tony, Donnie & Rickie already having thier bank accounts stocked, they will be told by Ford "suck it up & race.

 

A wise man once said  "follow the money"



Schatz's domination is not because of what's under the hood.   He will be the series champion regardless of what's under the hood.   You make the assumption that whatever Ford gets put together by Shaver or someone else will be down on power compared to the Chevys.   Maybe or maybe not, and on small dry slick tracks it won't make much difference anyway.    If it is down on power then your bigger tracks could see a difference.   Knoxville with Donny down on power?   That actually could be interesting.    As for the entire season it won't make a difference at all.   



revjimk
January 21, 2017 at 03:52:04 PM
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Posted By: 91RI on January 20 2017 at 11:14:21 PM

The best part will be minthess claiming that Ford is the reason Shatz is kicking ass, not the other way around.



Cause Schatz was such a loser with "Chevies", right? wink




minthess
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January 21, 2017 at 05:32:56 PM
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I have total confidence Smoke can overcome the watered down chev-like stuff he'll be forced to run. Looks like Im going to have change my signatureSmile. Trump telling the Xxx lovers to get lost now this!


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

raidersam67
January 22, 2017 at 01:02:28 AM
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isn't roush building ASCS ford engines already??...wouldn't it be smart to have them build 410's since they are already building 360's??..


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Dryslick Willie
January 22, 2017 at 06:15:08 AM
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isn't roush building ASCS ford engines already??...wouldn't it be smart to have them build 410's since they are already building 360's??..



Roush-Yates got out of the sprint car engine business two years ago.    There are a few teams that were/are still running them.  Jack Dover comes to mind.   TBJ was still running them while he still owned his own team.    I think they did find another builder to maintain those engines.  I'm not sure if any new Ford 360s are being built, but I'm guessing there are.   




minthess
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January 22, 2017 at 07:52:16 AM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on January 22 2017 at 06:15:08 AM

Roush-Yates got out of the sprint car engine business two years ago.    There are a few teams that were/are still running them.  Jack Dover comes to mind.   TBJ was still running them while he still owned his own team.    I think they did find another builder to maintain those engines.  I'm not sure if any new Ford 360s are being built, but I'm guessing there are.   



The dominant 360 Fords run by Dover, Brian Brown, Elk Grove Ford etc are currently built by Chris Moss. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

madsen
January 22, 2017 at 01:23:13 PM
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You can't be blowing engines and swapping em out week after week.  I remember Ford's half-azz attempt with Jeff Swindell years ago, half way thru the season had to switch to bowtie power by some builder not sure who it was, probably Gaerte back then as there weren't many builder's yet.  .  Maybe he'll have Yates technicians follow the WoO trail with Schatz, if it does happen, which is highly unlikely.  Stewart is a bowtie guy thru and thru.  The reason he left Gibbs was he wasn't going to drive anything but a bowtie, he made that very clear, and especially wasn't going to have one of those taayhoota engines built/manufactured in California in his Nascar rides.  . 


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