|
|
Topic: Nov. 12-13-ASCS National Tour featuring The King....Steve Kinser!!
|
Email this topic to a friend |
Subscribe to this Topic
| Report this Topic to Moderator
|
Page 1 of 3 of 54 replies
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
02:34:19 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
12/15/2009
|
Posts:
|
71
|
|
|
This message was edited on
July 07, 2010 at
02:34:37 PM by SNM Speedway
The Southern New Mexico Speedway is proud to welcome the Lucas Oil American Sprint Car Series National Tour back to Las Cruces, New Mexico for the first time since 1997. The ASCS is scheduled to run November 12-13, 2010 and will feature a showdown like no other.
Joining the line up in the City of the Crosses will be the King of the Outlaws….Steve Kinser as he looks to take on the best drivers that the ASCS has to offer. Along with Kinser, it has been rumored that several Outlaw drivers will be making the trip through Las Cruces on the western swing for the ASCS National Tour including possibly Sammy Swindell (how cool would that be if it happens).
More news and info will be posted in the coming months.
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
02:42:21 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
11/30/2004
|
Posts:
|
1973
|
|
|
I'd like to think that this will show the real difference berween ASCS talent and WoO guys---if they do show up!
Chuck.....
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
02:58:37 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
05/08/2007
|
Posts:
|
311
|
|
|
Alot of good drivers in the 360s... not the best obviously,, but good none the less.... the funny thing will be when the King takes all the money and the 360 guys complain about how much they have paid him to come and take it,,HA
|
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
03:32:23 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
01/20/2005
|
Posts:
|
2079
|
|
|
Reply to:
Posted By: duffyjr73 on July 07 2010 at 02:58:37 PM
Alot of good drivers in the 360s... not the best obviously,, but good none the less.... the funny thing will be when the King takes all the money and the 360 guys complain about how much they have paid him to come and take it,,HA
|
I would put GW in Steve, Sammy and Doug's category (and I think you'll find that he would too). As I recall, Wolfie thought GW was a better driver than he was.
Are all of them in that category? Of course not, but don't be short-sighted and think that just because someone doesn't drive a 410 for a living that they aren't great drivers.
Given the proper funding / time to gell as a team, I'd think that Shane Stewart, Gary Wright, Tim Crawley, Jason Johnson, etc. could all run very well with the Outlaws, they just don't have the funding or the desire to race 2 nights a week while criss-crossing the country spending more than they can ever pull in (truth hurts).
I saw that Joey Saldana leads the WoO in $$ won @ just under $140,000 for the year, too bad they've probably spent 3 times that much so far with multiple blown engines, travel, paying 3 crew guys, paying for a shop in NC, etc..
I agree that the Outlaws are the premier traveling sanctioning body, but it's not very economical to follow them all year unless someone else is paying the bills.
As long as it's a sprint car on dirt, what's the problem???
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
03:32:37 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
12/03/2004
|
Posts:
|
822
|
|
|
Now if he could race at the STN's without getting docked points by the World of Outlaws.
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
04:06:50 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
08/09/2008
|
Posts:
|
500
|
|
|
Kinser running in the ASCS? Hath the almighty HECK frozen over? lol
"The more the merrier" comes to mind. Great line by a sprint car driver a while back.
As has been mentioned... Shane Stewart, Jason Johnson, Rilat, Gary Wright, etc. aren't slouches. They win things other than ASCS. They're just plain GOOD.
Finances dictate what they run.
Everyone that drops in a 360 doesn't win automatically when they show up for an ASCS race.
I have absolutely no doubt that with an average motor that the King can win the SNM races.
I will say... it won't be easy.
BTW... haven't been out to Cruces in years but loved my 2 trips to that track. Super racy little place with a cool view of the valley from the stands while the sun is up. Great food in Cruces... nice trip for those wondering about going. Could be a nice car count for those interested in quantity. Kind of a haul for the OK/MS/ARK racers... but not the worst. 2 nt show makes it digestible.
|
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
04:46:38 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
03/29/2007
|
Posts:
|
729
|
|
|
Wasn't the King sponsored partially for a few yrs by a Trucking Company out of Las Cruces ?????
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
05:52:57 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
05/19/2009
|
Posts:
|
580
|
|
|
Reply to:
Posted By: mjm sleepy on July 07 2010 at 04:46:38 PM
Wasn't the King sponsored partially for a few yrs by a Trucking Company out of Las Cruces ?????
|
Mesilla Valley Transportationwww.m-v-t.com
Mesilla Valley Transportation is one of the largest locally-owned transportation providers in Western Texas and Southern New Mexico. We specialize in time sensitive service between major manufacturing areas in the U.S., Canada and Mexico.
.
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
06:42:53 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
11/07/2006
|
Posts:
|
5703
|
|
|
Reply to:
Posted By: vande77 on July 07 2010 at 03:32:23 PM
I would put GW in Steve, Sammy and Doug's category (and I think you'll find that he would too). As I recall, Wolfie thought GW was a better driver than he was.
Are all of them in that category? Of course not, but don't be short-sighted and think that just because someone doesn't drive a 410 for a living that they aren't great drivers.
Given the proper funding / time to gell as a team, I'd think that Shane Stewart, Gary Wright, Tim Crawley, Jason Johnson, etc. could all run very well with the Outlaws, they just don't have the funding or the desire to race 2 nights a week while criss-crossing the country spending more than they can ever pull in (truth hurts).
I saw that Joey Saldana leads the WoO in $$ won @ just under $140,000 for the year, too bad they've probably spent 3 times that much so far with multiple blown engines, travel, paying 3 crew guys, paying for a shop in NC, etc..
I agree that the Outlaws are the premier traveling sanctioning body, but it's not very economical to follow them all year unless someone else is paying the bills.
As long as it's a sprint car on dirt, what's the problem???
|
So what kind of race car pulls in a profit? It ain't Sprints of any kind. Late Models cost a ton of money and Mods are the same thing. Hornets? Pure Stocks? Nope, they spend more than they make as well.
Without sponsors there would be no racing because no kind of race car can pay for itself and make a living for driver and crew on it's own merit. At least I have never heard of one.
Stan Meissner
|
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
06:44:47 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
11/30/2004
|
Posts:
|
1973
|
|
|
Reply to:
Posted By: Rail on July 07 2010 at 05:52:57 PM
Mesilla Valley Transportationwww.m-v-t.com
Mesilla Valley Transportation is one of the largest locally-owned transportation providers in Western Texas and Southern New Mexico. We specialize in time sensitive service between major manufacturing areas in the U.S., Canada and Mexico.
|
OK, you've shown us that you know how to use the "color" on your type. But to those of us who peruse this board, could you please pick a color that we can see......???
Chuck.....
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
06:50:37 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
05/06/2010
|
Posts:
|
49
|
|
|
Steve shouldn't get docked any points for running with ASCS . Last WOO race is the week before Las Cruces. I think the trucking company still sponsors Steve and Kraig.
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
07:30:17 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
12/11/2004
|
Posts:
|
129
|
|
|
Nobody said he would get get docked points for Las Cruces, they said "Now if he could run the STN (Short Track Nationals) w/out getting docked" ....The STN is 3 weeks earlier, and the WoO season is still going.
|
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
07:53:10 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
05/19/2009
|
Posts:
|
580
|
|
|
This message was edited on
July 07, 2010 at
07:59:18 PM by Rail
Reply to:
Posted By: sprinter25 on July 07 2010 at 06:44:47 PM
OK, you've shown us that you know how to use the "color" on your type. But to those of us who peruse this board, could you please pick a color that we can see......???
|
That's the way it copied from Steve's web site. I tried to change the font color but had no luck. Maybe you can try.
http://www.stevekinser.com/sponsors.asp
.
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
08:57:20 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
11/23/2004
|
Posts:
|
2818
|
|
|
Has Kinser ever driven a 360? I thought he was one of the drivers that was really against the whole ASCS concept.
Member of this message board since 1997
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
10:10:10 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
07/07/2010
|
Posts:
|
57
|
|
|
I've seen Sammy, T-MAC, and other WoO drivers get smoked in 360 shows, and I've also seen Sammy dominate. The top tier teams are no better or no worse in ASCS.
As for the money, Shane Stewart said his car actually paid for itself last year, I highly doubt Kahne can say that about Saldana's car, even with the 140K (or whatever) he pulled in. Point is, its financially more reasonable to run the ASCS tour unless your sponsors require the Outlaw schedule, and with ASCS having more TV shows than WoO(I think) that is becoming more uncommon.
|
|
|
|
July 07, 2010 at
10:40:02 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
12/03/2004
|
Posts:
|
822
|
|
|
Reply to:
Posted By: racerguy6n on July 07 2010 at 07:30:17 PM
Nobody said he would get get docked points for Las Cruces, they said "Now if he could run the STN (Short Track Nationals) w/out getting docked" ....The STN is 3 weeks earlier, and the WoO season is still going.
|
That was my point. The STN's is on an open weekend for the outlaws but the apparent rule is if you race at a track the outlaws do not race at, you'll get docked some points (I don't know how many but I think it's quite a bit). This keeps guys like former champ Jason Meyers and Jason Sides from giving it a go.
|
|
|
July 08, 2010 at
12:46:48 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
05/29/2007
|
Posts:
|
331
|
|
|
I saw Kinser race a 360 once and his response was, "My tow rig has more horsepower than this."
|
|
|
July 08, 2010 at
05:03:04 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
12/01/2004
|
Posts:
|
691
|
|
|
I've been a huge SK fan about all my life. All I can say is, I'm not saying he's going to win? But it will be fun watching him try!!!! The ASCS has a ton of talented drivers from all over the US, not ez pickens for anyone! JMO
|
|
|
|
July 08, 2010 at
06:38:11 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
05/28/2008
|
Posts:
|
882
|
|
|
If you look closely at both Kinser cars, they both run a MVT logo. It stands for Mesilla Valley Trucking which is based out of Las Cruces. I am not positive, but I think that the owners of MVT also own/promote the track in Las Cruces. If they do not own the track they are deffinitely the top sponsors of the track.
It would seem that this would be Steve saying thank you for helping with the 11K car.
|
|
|
July 08, 2010 at
07:18:38 PM
|
|
Joined:
|
11/30/2004
|
Posts:
|
1973
|
|
|
This message was edited on
July 08, 2010 at
07:19:43 PM by sprinter25
Mesilla Valley Transportation is one of the largest locally-owned transportation providers in Western Texas and Southern New Mexico. We specialize in time sensitive service between major manufacturing areas in the U.S., Canada and Mexico.
Higlighted it in black, which rendered it more readable.....
Chuck.....
|
|