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Just wanted to inform all Factory Stock Drivers who race at Brill Motor Speedway or any others who plan on racing at brill in the Factory's for 2009 Mark is having a rules meeting Thursday Night Oct. 30 @ 7:30 p.m. at his shop on 23rd Street any FS drivers who want to attend please be there and please pass the word to all FS Drivers you see who are either racers at BMS or are planning on racing at BMS next year, Thanks and cya at the meeting !!!!

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Meeting Thurs Night 7:30 p.m.

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

ttt

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

TTT

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Reminder Factory Stock Rules meeting tonight @ 7:30 at Marks Shop !!!!

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

what come of the meeting? i was unable to attend. would very much like to know what new stuff there may be i plan on running the city, meeker, and ada.

thanks for any info.

Here is a few of the new rules from tonights meeting...

No Stock Floor Pans or Fire Walls you can remove them now...

Run any Header you want Over The Top or 180 Degree

Run any Nose Piece MD3 Late Model Style is Legal Now...

We can still run Asphalt Tires or the Hoosier 500, Run 1 Beadlock only

Any Stock HEI Ignition with Chip & Modual MSD HEI Ok / Fords can run a 6AL MSD Box

Vortec 906 casting Head still legal any size Runner or CC, and Porting and Polishing allowed on Heads

You can now have a 8" tall spoiler measured from the deck to top of spoiler

Tranny rule still the same

Intake rule still the same Port & Polish still allowed

Rearend Rule still the same Floaters still allowed

Engine rule still the same with the Crank Shaft can weigh no less than 43 pounds any rod still

Flat Top Pistons still enforced and No Roller Cams

Front Bumper must be 2" O.D. and can be no longer than 57"

Car must weigh 3,000lbs down from 3,200lbs

I know i have missed something, this is all i can think of at the moment....

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Sounds like they need to rename the class, Factory Stock????

Well that would be up to Mark to do that, our rules have been the same for about 3 years with the exceptions of some changes the last 2 years and for 2009, and Factory Stock is not a first time racer class like it used to be back in the day, those days are long gone, and that was said by many drivers at the meeting last night that is why we have Mini Stocks & the Limited Mod Class, the Limited is for the guy's wanting to get into racing for a very economical price and a fun and competative class to learn and race in, even though alot of Drivers have went to a Limited and they are having fun for less money to race....

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Danny, good luck to you guys in '09, if you need any body work done, let me know!!

Flash
New website!!!!!!!!!

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I've been wrong about a lot of things before, so this may be another one to add to the list, but I think this will lead to an even lower car count in this class. Last year we were never able to field 20 cars for the "A" feature. This year I predict maybe 10 cars in this class, total.

I've made no bones in the past about the fact that I would prefer a more stock "factory stock" class. Obviously those present at the meeting had other ideas.

On the other hand, with OKC going to a different engine rule, maybe some of those guys will want to run the beefier factory stocks at BMS.

Thank's Andy, and we sure will if we need any thing my friend, Larry there was a great show of drivers pitmen & owners there last night, and this is what everyone wanted, and as you know everyone is there to go fast not slow down, and as you know at BMS there are so many very fast cars, and also Mark made the point that he has tried many times to talk to several other track owners and they all say they will call him back and never do, so they could talk about getting rules close so others can run at our track and we can run at thiers, but most of them want the rules the way they want and not get any opinion from thier drivers so that they are tied to running at one track and can't go race at other tracks, so that is one of the problems with other promoters in the area they don't want to get on the same page and want thier cars tied to their track only, Mark said he is happy with the 14 to 16 cars that was there on a regular basis and welcomes any one who want's come race, just wait and see what happens it will only get better in time, you will see !!!

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

It is a step by step process and Mark is doing things step by step. He is being successfull by doing so and I figure it will keep getting bigger at the track.

He didn't give up on the champ sprints when he could have and now the majority say the track is alot better to race at then in previous years. His car counts keep growing or maintaining at least but I don't think he wants an overflow pit area at this point. But he keeps doing what he is doing on his weekly shows then that day will come where drivers make that 45 minute drive from OKC every Saturday night.

Yes, promoters need to get on the same page and hopefully in three years the majority of that will happen.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

with these rules, these "factory stocks" couldn't race legally with the street stocks at Enid with the exception of the street stock nationals(there is no motor rule for that show).

I would call the class exactly what it is, "UNLIMITED STOCKS", that would keep a guy from racing there that would have no chance to compete..... JMO

Jayson Ellis

David and Danny, I hope you are right. Obviously I'm going to support the track, no matter what. I've often said that I think the main thing Mark does right is to listen to what the drivers say. The mind-set of most local promoters amazes and puzzles me, but what do I know. See you guys at the track.

There was a couple of things Mark had his "mind set" on not changing or allowing. one was not allowing any aluminum intakes....Someone even brought up the fact that you can easily buy a good aluminum intake for $100.00 (I've got a coulpe of them that I've paid less than that for) where as, you are going to spend a hell of a lot more than that finding a good flowing cast iron intake. Port work isn't cheap and you'll spend $600.00 & up for cast iron Brzezinski. Another thing he wasn't hearing was just letting any cast iron head be legal....Why not? porting and polishing is now legal and unless you have a machine shop or are in good with someone who does head work, you'll spend as much money on a set of heads as you would going out and buying a new set that is already worked, not only that you know what your getting. My point is, unless you have a "hook-up" with a machinist/machine shop that knows what their doing, your going to end up spending about the same amount of money either way. the only difference is, you pretty much know what your getting when you go buy a performace product like these already worked. It's so far from a "FACTORY STOCK" already, what does it really matter anyway.

Sure glad I sold out last year. I went to my rules meeting Friday, Saturday and Sunday. We did not change a thing. The whole family enjoyed everyday. The sun was bright, the Temp was great the water was smooth and the fish were biting. The night meeting by the fire was another great feature. The beer was cool the food hot. Can hardly wait for the next time.

But seriously. I see that history has not changed. You all keep pricing everyone that wants to race. OUT. You guys want only the guys who can pour more money into a sport than you get out. Too bad. And then you guys complain about the car count and the same person winning every

week or so. Oh well I found that the lake is more fun. Man we had fun this weekend at the lake.

That's my Opinion and I'm stick'en to it.

It seemed Mark was trying to limit what heads could be used to help even up the field. He said there wasn't much complaining about intakes this year so why would you change that rule. Every rule that was changed was voted on by the drivers. What more could you ask for. Try getting the short guy from OKC to set down and even talk to drivers. Thats a joke. Mark has worked hard bringing the track to where it is. Do I agree with every decision Mark makes, no. No one will with any track. Do I appreciate the direction he has taken the track in the past few years? ABSOLUTELY We need more promoters like him. He listens to input from drivers and owners. He pays what he advertises.

You want to talk about people killing a class. Wait and see what the factory stock class looks like with the simms motor rules next year at the city. 3000+# car with a 2 barrel carb. There will be no throttle response. Drivers won't have enough legal horsepower to break the tires loose. Cars won't be very driveable. This will make for ROUGH ROUGH driving.

The reason the simms cars are doing better than the e-mod in these big races is for that very same reason. The e-mod hookes up too tight and there isn't enough motor to free up the car and make it driveable. Now you add a 1000lb to it and wider tires. Thats a joke. Class is doomed. People would rather watch paint dry.

What's the simms rule?

That's my Opinion and I'm stick'en to it.

I'm not talking down on Mark by no means, I like Mark and I too appreciate how he has brought the Meeker track to where it is and can see where it's gonna get better....You are right, every rule that was changed was voted on by the drivers. however, running aluminum intakes was not an option he gave, nor was taking a vote on letting any cast iron head be used. I just figured since porting and polishing was going to be legal, just running any cast iron head sounded good to me. it wasn't even me that brought that up in the meeting about running any iron head or aluminum intakes. I just thought it was a good point they brought up and agreed with it. And the reason I agreed with it, I stated above on my last post.....I'm not harping on those issuses, just something I thought I'd bring up. Don't no one get mad at me on here now....I got to go get busy on my bad ass Ford engine I'm building with those bad boy heads with the giant valves in them.........Now that, I'm joking about Tillison.