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June 02, 2022 at
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on June 02 2022 at 11:29:13 AM
So now it's unfair to have the balls and skill to run ap against the wall, and being able to use the entire track is not good racing? Well that "guide rail" is there for anyone to use. This topic is getting beyond silly. Every time Port has a fantastic night of racing which is pretty often, we have to listen to a few clowns tell us it wasn't any good. These are the same people who rave about a wet and heavy track with a cushion half way up that provides zero passing or side by side action. FWIW I've been going to Port Royal since I was a kid in the 70's and the racing today is far better than it's ever been. There was never as much passing, side by side or back and forth action as there is now, not even close. Most of the passing of yesteryear was manufactured by points handicapping and the fact that the cars were not nearly as even. As even and locked down as the cars are now, it's astonishing that a 1/2 mile track is able to prepare a track that produces such great racing even in the heat races.
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Of course I am going to disagree some. I firmly believe teh Port should go back to weekly show handicapping. That is what Lincoln still does and produces great feature racing along with great track preperation. Handicapping is the way to go.
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on June 02 2022 at 11:39:02 AM
Port had better racing in the 80's and 90's when they actually put water on the track and had a cushion. Yes, some cars ran above the cushion and some cars didn't. That is what makes racing exciting....not a slip and slide!
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Cars were running above the cushion? No fair! I sure hope they put out some cones and put a stop to that!
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on June 02 2022 at 12:01:32 PM
Lincoln is the BEST track in central PA and 2nd place isn't even close.
I only wish one track Wagner would get out more and go to some of these other tracks in central PA! I don't cheer any of them either. I really don't have a favorite when Larson isn't racing. My all time favorite is no longer around to be able to race or to field a car.
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I hate to tell you but your all time favorite didn't run the top as much later in his career and I am sure would not want to run those rough tracks with the big cushions at today's speeds. Another thing you never consider is that I am pretty sure you could not do it with today's cars. You might want to direct some of your ire at the car and parts manufacturers and start telling them how to do their job.
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June 02, 2022 at
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Posted By: longtimefan on June 02 2022 at 01:38:43 PM
I hate to tell you but your all time favorite didn't run the top as much later in his career and I am sure would not want to run those rough tracks with the big cushions at today's speeds. Another thing you never consider is that I am pretty sure you could not do it with today's cars. You might want to direct some of your ire at the car and parts manufacturers and start telling them how to do their job.
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Yes, you can run up there with today's cars. Just because they don't have a cushion at Port doesn't mean you can't run behind the cushion with today's cars. It takes bigger ones to run behind a cushion than to run the wall on a slip and slide!
The Rim Rider always put on a show. Starting in the back and bringing it towards the front almost every night he raced.
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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Macri top 5 driver in the country!
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Posted By: sprintfast on June 02 2022 at 02:34:02 PM
Macri top 5 driver in the country!
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I agree with that.....
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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Posted By: sprintfast on June 02 2022 at 02:34:02 PM
Macri top 5 driver in the country!
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I like watching him but that may be pushing it just yet. Do keep in mind though that he has not had his 23rd birthday yet.
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Posted By: sprintfast on June 02 2022 at 02:34:02 PM
Macri top 5 driver in the country!
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Macri is very good and has a bright future for sure. PA is not the country though, taking the 8 World of Outlaws races only that Macri has been in this year the points just from those races look like this (followed by wins, top 5s, top 10s in those 8 races).:
1. Gravel 1122 (1, 5, 8)
2. Schatz 1088 (1, 3, 6)
3. Sheldon 1086 (2, 4, 6)
4. Schuhardt 1072 (1, 4, 6)
5. Sweet 1050 (0, 2, 5) Top 5's is 2nd tiebreaker after wins
6. McFadden 1050 (0, 1, 5)
7. Macedo 1040 (0, 3, 6) Includes the DQ 26th place
8. Bayston 1038 (1, 2, 5)
9. Allen 1018 (1, 2, 3) Wins is first tiebreaker
10. Macri 1018 (0, 3, 4)
11. Zearfoss 982 (0, 0, 1)
This tells me he isn't quite top 5 in the country and like I said I really like him and think he could run top 5 in WoO points someday, but not today. 10th most points in the 8 race sample size and this doesn't factor in argueably as good drivers like Courtney, Peck, PPM, Scelzi, Deitrich, Marks, Madsen, Eliason etc...
Not trying to down Macri at all I wanted to see how he stacked up myself and it appears battling with Jacob Allen for 9th in WoO points. Don't shoot the messenger!!!!!
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Posted By: armyduke on June 02 2022 at 05:24:28 PM
Macri is very good and has a bright future for sure. PA is not the country though, taking the 8 World of Outlaws races only that Macri has been in this year the points just from those races look like this (followed by wins, top 5s, top 10s in those 8 races).:
1. Gravel 1122 (1, 5, 8)
2. Schatz 1088 (1, 3, 6)
3. Sheldon 1086 (2, 4, 6)
4. Schuhardt 1072 (1, 4, 6)
5. Sweet 1050 (0, 2, 5) Top 5's is 2nd tiebreaker after wins
6. McFadden 1050 (0, 1, 5)
7. Macedo 1040 (0, 3, 6) Includes the DQ 26th place
8. Bayston 1038 (1, 2, 5)
9. Allen 1018 (1, 2, 3) Wins is first tiebreaker
10. Macri 1018 (0, 3, 4)
11. Zearfoss 982 (0, 0, 1)
This tells me he isn't quite top 5 in the country and like I said I really like him and think he could run top 5 in WoO points someday, but not today. 10th most points in the 8 race sample size and this doesn't factor in argueably as good drivers like Courtney, Peck, PPM, Scelzi, Deitrich, Marks, Madsen, Eliason etc...
Not trying to down Macri at all I wanted to see how he stacked up myself and it appears battling with Jacob Allen for 9th in WoO points. Don't shoot the messenger!!!!!
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You're dead on the money. Macri is a threat anywhere in PA. That's for sure and I think he may even be capable of winning off the porch against the WoO. He definitely could against the All Stars but top 5 in the country for someone who has yet to win a WoO race is a bridge too far. Definitely an argument can be made for him to be in back half of the top 10. Fact is, he definitely will win an outlaw race some day, but he hasn't yet. I personally think he'll check that off the list this season at some point. Most likely at Port Royal where he's without any question, the best car. He's flat out dominant at Port. He's certainly capable of beating them at Williams Grove or Lincoln as well.
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Posted By: fiXXXer on June 02 2022 at 11:09:32 PM
You're dead on the money. Macri is a threat anywhere in PA. That's for sure and I think he may even be capable of winning off the porch against the WoO. He definitely could against the All Stars but top 5 in the country for someone who has yet to win a WoO race is a bridge too far. Definitely an argument can be made for him to be in back half of the top 10. Fact is, he definitely will win an outlaw race some day, but he hasn't yet. I personally think he'll check that off the list this season at some point. Most likely at Port Royal where he's without any question, the best car. He's flat out dominant at Port. He's certainly capable of beating them at Williams Grove or Lincoln as well.
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A little off topic but still about Macri..I heard, don't know if true but he is an airline pilot..If so who with and for a big company..Looks to have the talent but not top 10 in WOO yet..Will win this year in a close race when he does and it will be big for him..
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Posted By: moparfarmer on June 02 2022 at 11:24:03 PM
A little off topic but still about Macri..I heard, don't know if true but he is an airline pilot..If so who with and for a big company..Looks to have the talent but not top 10 in WOO yet..Will win this year in a close race when he does and it will be big for him..
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I believe you're thinking of Logan Wagner. He is a pilot, but not with a major carrier. I believes he flies corporate-style jets for a living.
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I'm not going to read all the responses but I will say this...
I've never been out eat to watch a race in person. Not Williams Grove or Port Royal. I'd like to visit both tracks some day. From my perspective the racing at Port Royal is better. I have zero bias on either place, but just watching the racing at either track from the highlights or on Dirt Vision, I'll pick Port Royal to have the better racing.
Sorry BStraws
Keep It Real
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Posted By: YungWun24 on June 03 2022 at 01:16:12 PM
I'm not going to read all the responses but I will say this...
I've never been out eat to watch a race in person. Not Williams Grove or Port Royal. I'd like to visit both tracks some day. From my perspective the racing at Port Royal is better. I have zero bias on either place, but just watching the racing at either track from the highlights or on Dirt Vision, I'll pick Port Royal to have the better racing.
Sorry BStraws
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Lincoln has the best racing in central PA period. It is a 3/8 mile track and both Port and Williamsgrove are 1/2 miles.
Sorry YungWun24
Let's go Sprint Car Racing!
Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!
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Selinsgrove was actually amazing Satyurday night. Track was dry for the heats but after a little water was put down on the bottom and top, the track came to life with the cushion up where it should be. Mark Smith's drive from 14th to the win was incredible, ripping the lip as they say. Unfortunately there wasn't many there to witness as the 360's just don't draw a crowd anymore. Got home in time to watch Lincoln which was underwhelming, everyone on the bottom of 1-2 and the top of 3-4 after a few laps of good racing. Wierd track and probably the worst they've had this year.
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