Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
Moderators: dirtonly  /  dmantx  /  hosehead

Heard at Port Saturday that at least two of the top 360 cars at Selinsgrove have sold all their stuff ,does this mean the 360s are done or are they going to run with ten cars?

The 29 of Schultz was apparently sold to Chad Laytons team amd the 66 of Ryan Kissinger also sold that is two of their biggest supporters.

Reported in this week's Area Auto Racing News that Selinsgrove will go to a 10 to 15 race SPECIALS ONLY schedule in 2020 and forgo their weekly schedule. Looking to book a variety of 410, 360, Dirt Late Model and Big Block Modified races.

The 66 did not sell everything.   Plans for next year are up in the air at this point.

thanks

Ryan

I was told by a gentleman who is starting a 305 team that Selinsgrove will run 305's every other week. He told me that the plan is one week at Selinsgrove and then Port.  The tracks will share the class and alternate weeks.

I haven't got my AARN yet today.  But from what was just posted the 305 idea seems to have changed.   If the plan has changed the guy who spoke with me will be in for a surprise.   I don't think he wants to follow the PASS schedule and tow all over Central Pa.  

As much as it sucks that the track is doing this for those who called Selinsgrove their home track, it was probably the best. The car counts really werent there that much anymore. Hopefully the specials will work for the track, they certainly have for the Georgetown Speedway in Delaware. Other tracks like in Indiana run on the same kind of scheduling such as Terre Haute, and Tri-State. I do hope it works out, especially if they do indeed have some modified races. 

Re-read the article and comprehend it this time. It says it is possible, but Heffner has to clear it with the other owners. It does NOT say they "WILL GO" with that plan for sure.

The handwriting is on the wall.....With your championship winning team (Westbrook 1W) moving up to the 410 ranks, and possible other teams selling out, there is just not enough 360 teams to run on a weekly basis. Support from URC (the club is also sruggling for car counts) is almost non exsistant..... Selinsgrove is one of my favorite tracks, but maybe the best thing is to run a handful of higher paying specials with various different types of cars. Maybe run 5 or 6 races for the 410's and some higher paying shows for the dirt late models, plus a few modified races. No one would blame Heffner and his partners if they ulimately go that route in 2020......Time will tell, but something tells me they wouldn't have released that information to AARN if there wasn't some truth to it.

It will be kind of hard to add more 410 races as they are pretty much overbooked as it is now, not sure about modifieds. They used to have the big block tour there in the early season before they started in NY. Support for those shows was good as far as cars but so-so as far as fans. I still think they would get more support from the 360/358 teams if the track was a little smaller(worked wonders at Jackson) but I guess they would rather run 305's and/or a limited schedule. 1 thing that's a head scratcher to me is that when Port schedules a URC show, they get 30+ cars for 2G to win. When Selinsgrove pays 5G, they get 24. 

A

They can certainly ad more 410 races if they work with Lincoln and Port ,Heffner is already involved at Lincoln so maybe thats the partners he needs to discuss with.

If rumers are true that Shawn Brouse and Stve Oniel are now helping Selinsgrove that would give them plenty of options.

The All Stars did not turn down Selinsgrove turned down the All Stars thats how Hagerstown got their race not sure about Lucas Oil.

If all of the tracks worked together like that, it would be the best thing to happen in Central PA since I've been born. We could really USE more of that here.

So we are going to solve the problem by taking from the successful to give to the unsuccessful. Who does that sound like? I wish Selingrove luck but they are going to have to come up with something themselves. The special events thing might work but it will have to be around times when divisions aren't running somewhere else as with the latemodel series that they and Port worked when the other track wasn't running them. Nobody is going to give up races for Selinsgrove or any other track.

What about a mini series somewhere between speedweek and the WoO/ Ascoc formats?

I'm assuming each track has a point fund? Take the 3 or 4 tracks in the area and throw all the loot into one point fund and make the drivers travel a bit but with more to gain. It may not help the weekend guy who only races cause the track is in his backyard but I would think most would attempt to hit all the shows knowing the point fund is as good as winning at all 4 tracks in the same season. Tracks would have to give a bit but I believe the car counts would go up every night. Obviously each track would have less weekly shows for that class but more special shows with higher car counts.

Maybe only in a perfect world....

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

Everything is relative, though. I grew up as a huge fan of DIRT style Northeast Modifieds.  For the most part, the tracks in central PA have way, way more respect for each other and each track's major races than what happens in Notheast Modified racing. Even the iconic races in that division have promoters or the sanctioning body trying to undercut and schedule against one another just to eff other tracks.

Agree 100%....I as well grew up a fan of the Big Block Modifieds. At least in sprint car and DLM racing, a car is pretty much legal for most of the tracks in terms of engines, bodies and tires. In modified racing each track seems to have their own deals with tires and fuel. It is every track for themselves, which hurts the betterman and advancement of the sport. Back in the day, Genn Donnelly ruled DIRT with an iron fist and the sport was in a much better place. You have tracks close together and one is running sail panels, American Racers and Sunoco fuel while the other track runs regular bodies, Hoosiers and VP Fuel......and the promotors wonder why they are struggling.....Never mind the different engine rules for different tracks and series. In my opinion, the promotors in Central Pa do a good job of trying to work togeter in terms of schedules and rules compared to the Northeast dirt modified promotors.

The best thing for All Pa. tracks would be do something similar to Ohio run about a 25 race schedule 5 at each track include all the bigger shows (except WOO) GET THE DRIVERS TO JOIN and pay them with pit passes and tow money and an overall point fund similar to the Outlaws and All Stars then the fans and promoters could go to these races and know who should be there.

Yep... more or less same as Rod suggested

It is unfortunate what happens with Northeast Modifeid racing -- DIRTCar adding a race against a $53,000 to win show at Fonda or the BS that went on a few years ago with DIRTCAR scheduling against the Eastern State weekend at Orange County, There is not any respect in that division anymore for the history of the class and its iconic races.

On the dirt Modified boards I read regularly, posters often point to central PA as an example of tracks that work together and lament why Modified promoters can't do the same thing.

 I'm not sure All PA track promoters will agree with you. Yea, it would be nice, kinda like beers and slim jims falling from the sky but that aint reality.  Wash out your head gear guy, promoters are out to make money, any track that competes against them is possibly taking away from their revenue. We are lucky that our tracks work together as much as they do.

koooombaayyaaa!!!

Why would the tracks that run 410's weekly agree to that? That's their bread and butter, nothing in it for them. I don't think too many teams would support it either as most teams nowadays are smaller funded that run 1 night a week at their local track. 

A

Atomic got their previous date(Nace Memorial) by giving them a 2 day show, something Selinsgrove couldn't do with the Grove having 410's on Friday. 

A