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Robm20
June 23, 2019 at 08:40:15 PM
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haven't seen this bad of a start since he started on his championship runs

any thoughts about this

is this the off season when he lets someone else take the points championship

like steve did a few times.

does the new ford engine not have the get up that his other shaver motor did

is the old crew chief not there this year

just asking




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June 23, 2019 at 08:48:59 PM
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I don't think they're running the Ford yet. Probably a combination of a few things, Ricky Warner not being at the track definitely is going to have an impact, Schatz isn't getting any younger and the more experience and confidence the competing teams get, the better they will be.



turn4guy
June 23, 2019 at 11:01:04 PM
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Definitely a slow start. Although were damn near in July already . Probably a combination of things. Ricky being one of them. But month of money coming up and if anybody can turn it around on a dime its #15.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him absolutely clean up, especially at Eldora and Knoxville.




raidersam67
June 23, 2019 at 11:43:03 PM
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LOL..."the season he LET'S someone else take the seasons championship"?...nobody "let's" ANYBODY win a CHIP....how about the competition has caught up to the 15...right now ...sweet,gravel and pittman are the ones to beat...shark racing is also strong. we will see after the nationals how strong the 15 REALLY is with OR without the FORD engine.....my money is on sweet TAKING the throne in charlotte.


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moparfarmer
June 23, 2019 at 11:54:00 PM
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Donny probably has lots on his mind..Success on the track,getting new engine program going and his fathers health..Danny Schatz is not very well and although it doesn't show on him, deep down its probably eating him up..His dads been there for him all his career and not being able to travel and continue has go to be nerve racking for Donny..You don't forget how to win in a year, he'll be back, he's just too good not to be..

 



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June 24, 2019 at 07:19:34 AM
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He has been beaten a few times during his run of championships.

But as stated above his dad is sick, new engine program(that probably includes alot of testing), Warner not on the road with the team, and Warner not on the road with the team.  I think it would be funny if they broke out the Ford for the Nationals and won.  



egras
June 24, 2019 at 07:55:54 AM
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Posted By: Robm20 on June 23 2019 at 08:40:15 PM

haven't seen this bad of a start since he started on his championship runs

any thoughts about this

is this the off season when he lets someone else take the points championship

like steve did a few times.

does the new ford engine not have the get up that his other shaver motor did

is the old crew chief not there this year

just asking



I think everyone can agree:   (at least every sane person)

1.  Donny is not winning 10 more championships

2.  Donny is not winning 10 more Nationals

3.  Donny is not winning 283 more Outlaw races

 

If we do all agree on this, then we can all agree the peak of his career has passed.  I would expect to see his win percentage decline over the next 10 years----not hold steady.   He's got a lot more wins and likely a few more championships coming up----maybe even the 2019 championship.  But, expect some other guys to get in there and take a few. 



Nick14
June 24, 2019 at 08:30:00 AM
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I am sure there is a little bit of a gap that is left with Ricky Warner not being the crew chief but that is to be expected at times as he is one of the best ever. In his interview a few weeks ago Donny said that he felt they were gaining on some things and felt the team would be dangerous once they got it clicking. Plus you add the personal stuff with his dad isn't really helping the situation.

I do think the "slow start" by Donny can also be contributed to the other team's performance as well. Logan Schuhart continues to step up his game year after year, Gravel in JJR 41 is a threat each race, Pittman is solid in the 83, and even some of the guys that were not top 5 guys are getting a little more consistent as well. Brent Marks continues to get better and consistent, Kraig Kinser seems to have things running better, Jacob Allen is competitive so I think the gap is shrinking and getting a little harder between Donny & the other teams.

Finally you also have to give a tip of the cap to Brad Sweet & his team. He is figuring out a way to win races now and finish on the podium week in & out. That team has stayed consistent and Brad has continued to develop as a driver. Watch races of him a couple years ago then watch him now. Seems like he is confident that the car can be fast anywhere and is not afraid to move around on the track. A few guys get a certain line set in there head and will not deviate from their game plan but it seems like he is not afraid to test the waters. Earlier this year I felt they could win the championship because of keeping things the same with that team & it was a matter of turning some of those 5th place finishes to 3rd place finishes and those 3rds to wins.




heinen81
June 24, 2019 at 08:36:41 AM
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This message was edited on June 24, 2019 at 08:42:35 AM by heinen81

I know this sounds like a crack conspiracy theory, but in the end this is a business, and I think this is a business move.

Imagine Donny continues to dominate in a Chevrolet, and once the Ford is inevetibly dropped in, he struggles. That would be a PR nightmare for Ford, and ultimately bad for business. I believe they are holding it back to create the appearance of some struggling, drop the Ford in, and its a win-win. Either the Ford has some growing pains and its not as visible or newsworthy, or they turn it back on, its competitive out of the box, and the Ford motor is credited with turning things around. Sounds crazy but at the end of the day, this is a brand and a business, both of which Ford will protect at any cost, because thats what good business do. Any fall off when going from his usual domination in a Chevrolet to potential hiccups or growing pains when going to Ford would have been terrible PR for Ford. Its a business and I think its a business decision. 



shernernum
June 24, 2019 at 09:07:51 AM
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I know this sounds like a crack conspiracy theory, but in the end this is a business, and I think this is a business move.

Imagine Donny continues to dominate in a Chevrolet, and once the Ford is inevetibly dropped in, he struggles. That would be a PR nightmare for Ford, and ultimately bad for business. I believe they are holding it back to create the appearance of some struggling, drop the Ford in, and its a win-win. Either the Ford has some growing pains and its not as visible or newsworthy, or they turn it back on, its competitive out of the box, and the Ford motor is credited with turning things around. Sounds crazy but at the end of the day, this is a brand and a business, both of which Ford will protect at any cost, because thats what good business do. Any fall off when going from his usual domination in a Chevrolet to potential hiccups or growing pains when going to Ford would have been terrible PR for Ford. Its a business and I think its a business decision. 



Except his Chevy is getting beat by........wait for it.......other Chevy's



heinen81
June 24, 2019 at 09:26:55 AM
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This message was edited on June 24, 2019 at 09:38:02 AM by heinen81
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Posted By: shernernum on June 24 2019 at 09:07:51 AM

Except his Chevy is getting beat by........wait for it.......other Chevy's



Its not about who he is getting beat by now, its about his performance as a whole. Imagine he is dominating as usual, they make the switch to Ford, which will obviously be a very visible and scrutinized move, and he struggles. Starting with this board, Facebook, Twitter.... the negative PR Ford would endure would be huge. By him struggling now, if the Ford struggles out of the box, it gets little blame because they had already been in a slight slump. Right now everyones thoughts fall on the crew chief, and other aspects of the car or his life. If the Ford comes out competitive, which I think it will in time, they look like heroes. Strategies like this happen at all levels of professional motorsports, right up to F1. Manufactures will strategically manage risk, and I dont think this is any exception. There are 2 possible outcomes to this manufacturer switch given Donny's dominance. 

1. They make the switch and he doesnt miss a beat and continues dominating.

2. They make the switch and there are some growing pains, and Ford is blamed for ruining Schatz.

There really is nowhere to go but stay the same, or down at this point, and dont think for a second Ford doesnt realize this and will do what they can to make it as least visible as possible in the occurance of any growing pains. Money still drives everything in this sport, team orders included, especially with corporate funded manufacturer teams.

 




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June 24, 2019 at 09:52:42 AM
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None of the drivers that were active in 1960 when I started going to races are driving today.  Nothing lasts forever but it might last a few more years, who knows.  Sit back and enjoy the points race.  wink


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Someone said on a post here four year ago that Donny would never have a Ford engine under the hood. I believe that might be true.  Schatz/Stewart might have some type of "out" in their contract with Ford, or possibly a time limit.  This can't go on forever with Ford Performance on the wing and the Blue Oval Ford on both sides of the hood and then a bowtie under that hood----or can it.  While Ricky Warner and crew are "struggling" to get a Ford engine ready, the other engine builders are certainlly not sitting on their asses.  Every year the engine builders of which there are many sprint car engine builders, increase the HP figures from the year before.  A 925HP engine today might be a 940 HP engine next year.  Every year they find more HP, might be as little as 10 or 15 Hp but a stronger longer lasting engine is always in the works.  


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June 24, 2019 at 06:07:51 PM
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Posted By: heinen81 on June 24 2019 at 08:36:41 AM

I know this sounds like a crack conspiracy theory, but in the end this is a business, and I think this is a business move.

Imagine Donny continues to dominate in a Chevrolet, and once the Ford is inevetibly dropped in, he struggles. That would be a PR nightmare for Ford, and ultimately bad for business. I believe they are holding it back to create the appearance of some struggling, drop the Ford in, and its a win-win. Either the Ford has some growing pains and its not as visible or newsworthy, or they turn it back on, its competitive out of the box, and the Ford motor is credited with turning things around. Sounds crazy but at the end of the day, this is a brand and a business, both of which Ford will protect at any cost, because thats what good business do. Any fall off when going from his usual domination in a Chevrolet to potential hiccups or growing pains when going to Ford would have been terrible PR for Ford. Its a business and I think its a business decision. 



     Well, I can agree with the first 9 words of your post, but it goes off the rails after that. Do you think Muhammad Ali ever threw some fights just so he could make a triumphant comeback? I'd say racers at his level are out to win every time they hit the track.




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June 24, 2019 at 09:06:51 PM
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I love conspiracy theories especially when they turn out to be true but this is a doozie.  I couldnt imagine the turmoil in Donny's head when asked to finish out of the top 5 from time to time.

It would make a good movie tho.


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egras
June 24, 2019 at 10:55:37 PM
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I still get a good chuckle when I hear the Chevy/Ford battle.  Is this 1980's Nascar?  I don't see a Ford or Chevy on the track.  Nor does either manufacturer put out a 950 h.p. methanol burner in a 1200 lb. car.  So who really gives a fat flying shit?



MSPN
June 25, 2019 at 09:16:57 AM
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Not having his Father around has to be the number one issue, they were very, very close.  Danny didn't have to say a word to Donny, he could just look at him and he knew whether he did well or screwed up.  They were quite the team and throw in Rickey and you just hit the trifecta.  Missing 2/3 of the 'team' has to be difficult but Dad and his situation would wear thin on anyone....




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June 25, 2019 at 09:54:27 AM
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A couple of thoughts.

1) Ricky Warner not being there day to day has to be a big impact but nothing they can't get over.  It may take some time to get the right communication going within the team.

2) I don't know anything about Danny's condition, but within any close family, a serious illness has a big effect.

3) Ford engine - as they haven't changed over yet, minimal effect although the testing could be some extra work for Donny.  I don't think they would "tank" anything to put down some additional hype for Ford.

4) Donny always seems to step it up during the month of money.  Tracks get slick, the temp gets higher and there is a premium on traction and car control.  We really haven't see those conditions yet.

5) As someone pointed out, Donny may very well have peaked.  Not that he won't be a factor, but he may not freaking dominate all the time.  He'll be a big winner for a while, then just a winner, etc.  No shame in that.  I don't count him out for a few more Nationals wins and a couple of WoO championships.

6) Donny is still 2nd place in the standings, not like he has "dropped" very far. 29 races, 25 top 5's and 29 top 10's.



EasyE
June 25, 2019 at 10:09:25 AM
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No tricky Ricky that's it and that's all





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