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Topic: Don Kreitz Jr. has done enough to warrant a trip to the Hall of Fame Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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dirtlover
March 12, 2015 at 03:10:08 PM
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Rahmer probably,,,,,...... Kreitz has one win at Eldora, what has he done out west....zero

You cant just win in one region and be HOF unless its HOF of that region meaning he is a pa HOF but not a national HOF

he isnt even that known outside of his region



Charles Nungester
March 12, 2015 at 03:50:55 PM
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This thread is almost a year old



puckzx6
March 12, 2015 at 05:48:59 PM
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Posted By: dirtlover on March 12 2015 at 03:10:08 PM

Rahmer probably,,,,,...... Kreitz has one win at Eldora, what has he done out west....zero

You cant just win in one region and be HOF unless its HOF of that region meaning he is a pa HOF but not a national HOF

he isnt even that known outside of his region



I grew up in California and I knew who he has as a kid without seeing a race outside of Cali until 6 years ago. 




wolfie2985
March 13, 2015 at 11:41:08 AM
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Posted By: dirtlover on March 12 2015 at 12:31:17 PM

I thought you had to very accomplished on the national level to get in the hall.

he hasnt demonstated on a national level for years and years he is HOF bound

He has proven to be nothing more then a good racer that has beaten Wrecker drivers, junkyard owners and locals.

take out his lucky as hell Kings Royal that he inherited, i got the dvd to prove it and what has he done outside of Pa????

great driver but not HOF worthy




This is just plain and simple bull$hit.

I haven't looked in a while but I'm surmising there's probably lots of HOF members who achieved and earned their fame more on the regional level than the national level. It has to be so because if the "national" record was the only determining factor, then the list of members would be pretty damn short....really damn short.

If you beat good regional competition in PA, OH, IA,CA, or wherever, and over period of 30 years or more - and continue to do so, then you deserve a spot in the HOF..........like Donie Kreitz,  Fred Rahmer, and others - pick your region.

 



jah42
March 13, 2015 at 05:16:30 PM
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Don't you people read anything. He is going in this year, 2015.



kossuth
March 13, 2015 at 06:42:08 PM
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I'm gonna say it.  Greg Hodnett will be a first go inductee.  While I hate to see him dominate the way he does when he gets on a tear, but there are few better in the country. The fact he ran so strong in Florida a few weeks ago put a lot of people on notice. He's gonna be real tough  




Mephit71
March 13, 2015 at 10:07:01 PM
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This is just plain and simple bull$hit.

I haven't looked in a while but I'm surmising there's probably lots of HOF members who achieved and earned their fame more on the regional level than the national level. It has to be so because if the "national" record was the only determining factor, then the list of members would be pretty damn short....really damn short.

If you beat good regional competition in PA, OH, IA,CA, or wherever, and over period of 30 years or more - and continue to do so, then you deserve a spot in the HOF..........like Donie Kreitz,  Fred Rahmer, and others - pick your region.

 



This seems doubtful, but what about Todd Shaffer?



darnall
March 14, 2015 at 08:55:27 AM
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Until a guy gets in who had well over 100 wins by his mid 20s..wins with and without wings, from east coast to west coast and even down under, wins in more than a couple crown jewel races, winning his last 3 races sweeping a friday, saturday sunday weekend at 3 different tracks, before meeting an untimely demise in a freak accident in the shop.. until he gets in I don't give 2 shits who the NSCHOF does or does not nominate or enshrine.


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doublenuthin
March 14, 2015 at 09:49:03 AM
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It's the "National" thing that's the problem. Someone might be recognized in one region by those HoF voters but not known by folks in the other areas. Kreitz is a heck of a racer but not a racer who has won around the whole country.  




HoldenCaulfield
March 15, 2015 at 09:41:33 AM
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Posted By: Mephit71 on March 13 2015 at 10:07:01 PM

This seems doubtful, but what about Todd Shaffer?



To me being from PA, Todd Shaffer is a HOF caliber driver, at least on the borderline. He's done some amazing things in a sprint car and won a ton of races but in reality, his record against the WOO and record outside PA is not very impressive. That's gonna kill his chances.


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HoldenCaulfield
March 15, 2015 at 09:55:37 AM
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Kreitz' career record is pretty impressive with lots of wins, big wins, WOO wins and track championships. I'd like to know is on this "list of others". Although he never tarvelled much, gis record is resopecrtable when he did travel. I can see having McCarl and Blaney ahead but IMO the 3 are pretty close. McCarl I'd put slightly ahead because he's won more on a national level.

 


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LatshPA
March 15, 2015 at 09:15:33 PM
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He's won WoO races for four decades, in his own car.  He belongs, down the road I'm confident he will.  I wish I had a picture of his hauler to show people he still does it with too...






table for 2
March 16, 2015 at 07:07:59 AM
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Posted By: dirtlover on March 12 2015 at 03:10:08 PM

Rahmer probably,,,,,...... Kreitz has one win at Eldora, what has he done out west....zero

You cant just win in one region and be HOF unless its HOF of that region meaning he is a pa HOF but not a national HOF

he isnt even that known outside of his region



How many drivers have won big races with his own team? Kreitz is the only guy to win kings royal and the national open in his own team! 



kossuth
March 16, 2015 at 06:17:11 PM
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Posted By: LatshPA on March 15 2015 at 09:15:33 PM

He's won WoO races for four decades, in his own car.  He belongs, down the road I'm confident he will.  I wish I had a picture of his hauler to show people he still does it with too...



http://www.apexonephoto.com/Drivers/Winged-Dirt-Sprints/Don-Kreitz-Jr/i-BFQvkQP/A

 

Definately old school



Mephit71
March 19, 2015 at 01:04:53 AM
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Having been raised on watching in the 80s as a 5-6 year old, believe me, I do NOT miss the days of Kauffman or Wolfgang winning 35+ races a year.




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Posted By: vande77 on May 01 2014 at 03:29:21 PM


the last 5 years induction classes.  Who do you remove?  Remember, many of the drivers in years past raced in the EARLY 1900's.  Who as a driver in the last 5 years would you remove?  Kreitz is only 52 and wasn't eligible for induction until 2012..... 

Is he deserving?  Yes, but more than those that went in before him?  Probably not.

2014 --

Drivers:  Dave Blaney, Bobby Davis (Jr.), Mark Kinser.

 Owners-Mechanics-Builders-Manufacturers-Car Sponsors:  Chuck Merrill, George Nesler.

 Promoters-Officials-Media Members-Event/Series Sponsors:  Dave Argabright, William “Windy” McDonald.

 Pre-1945:  Larry Beckett.

2013 -

Charles "Dutch" Baumann     Art Bisch, Sr.     Lou Blaney     Jeff Bloom    
Richard Hoffman     Harold "Red" Lempelius     Andy Linden     Jean Lynch    
E.A. "Ernie" Moross     Brad Noffsinger     Edd Sheppard     C.W. Van Ranst    

2012--

Johnny Anderson     Thad Dosher     Sam Hoffman     Harry Hosterman    
Chuck Hulse     C. Henry Meyer     A. Earl Padgett     Colby Scroggin    
Ron Shaver     Gary Sokola     W.H. "Bill" Vandewater    

Bobby Ward    

2011 --

W.W. Bowen     Jimmy Boyd     Bruce Bromme, Jr.     Bob Burman    
Wally Campbell     Anthony "Andy" Granatelli     Leonard Kerbs     Danny Lasoski    
Gene Marderness     Della Rice     Emmett Shelley     Joe Sostilio    
Gary Wright    

2010 --

Clyde Adams     Bobbie Adamson     Hank Arnold     George Bentel    
Fred Brownfield     Ben Krasner     Fred Linder     Casey Luna    
Frank Riddle     Hal Robson     Herman Schurch     Don Shepherd    

 



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