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November 22, 2013 at
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I have noticed several teams now carrying a small 4 wheeler and their mule/pit carts to the tracks. Seems like most guys are using the 4 wheelers to push the cars to the staging lane or in situations where the cars are not started until on track, they're using them to push the cars onto the track and the rest of the crew is taking the mule to the work area. Now, my question, what size 4 wheelers are you guys using? 110cc? We're looking at getting a small one for just the purpose of what I mentioned above. We use a Bad Boy Buggy as our mule/pit cart and it will push the car fine, will push start it even, but will not push it fast enough to get out of the way of some of the other guys trying to push their cars to the staging lanes. I've seen guys go zipping by with a little 4 wheeler and leave us in the dust. Anyway, looking to buy a 4 wheeler but never paid enough attention to what sizes those guys were using. I'm assuming 110cc but you know what they say about assuming......
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November 22, 2013 at
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Posted By: CBGarage on November 22 2013 at 06:24:51 PM
I have noticed several teams now carrying a small 4 wheeler and their mule/pit carts to the tracks. Seems like most guys are using the 4 wheelers to push the cars to the staging lane or in situations where the cars are not started until on track, they're using them to push the cars onto the track and the rest of the crew is taking the mule to the work area. Now, my question, what size 4 wheelers are you guys using? 110cc? We're looking at getting a small one for just the purpose of what I mentioned above. We use a Bad Boy Buggy as our mule/pit cart and it will push the car fine, will push start it even, but will not push it fast enough to get out of the way of some of the other guys trying to push their cars to the staging lanes. I've seen guys go zipping by with a little 4 wheeler and leave us in the dust. Anyway, looking to buy a 4 wheeler but never paid enough attention to what sizes those guys were using. I'm assuming 110cc but you know what they say about assuming......
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the polaris 90 is awesome,some use lil 50's
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November 23, 2013 at
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Posted By: CBGarage on November 22 2013 at 06:24:51 PM
I have noticed several teams now carrying a small 4 wheeler and their mule/pit carts to the tracks. Seems like most guys are using the 4 wheelers to push the cars to the staging lane or in situations where the cars are not started until on track, they're using them to push the cars onto the track and the rest of the crew is taking the mule to the work area. Now, my question, what size 4 wheelers are you guys using? 110cc? We're looking at getting a small one for just the purpose of what I mentioned above. We use a Bad Boy Buggy as our mule/pit cart and it will push the car fine, will push start it even, but will not push it fast enough to get out of the way of some of the other guys trying to push their cars to the staging lanes. I've seen guys go zipping by with a little 4 wheeler and leave us in the dust. Anyway, looking to buy a 4 wheeler but never paid enough attention to what sizes those guys were using. I'm assuming 110cc but you know what they say about assuming......
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Ive paid little attention to this as well, but, I believe the driver of the car understands when the car is at its least rolling resistance, I commonly let my crew push me off the trailer door with the wheel turned to the left (obviously), any sharp turns causes the car to lock, (which anybody on here will know if they have ever pushed a 1400lb sprintcar) it pushes pretty EZ with no hold on the steering wheel, my observation ,and common practice it to try keep the car turning left moderately, when the " LIL 4wheeler that could" encounters higher resistance the (team) will have the car up to speed and carrying momentum thus easier on the push vehical, i too have noticed some of these quads must have extreemly strong chains or more ponies than we think they have? otherwise its just become habit how to move a moutain with a tricycle,
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November 23, 2013 at
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Posted By: dirtdevil on November 23 2013 at 12:23:43 AM
Ive paid little attention to this as well, but, I believe the driver of the car understands when the car is at its least rolling resistance, I commonly let my crew push me off the trailer door with the wheel turned to the left (obviously), any sharp turns causes the car to lock, (which anybody on here will know if they have ever pushed a 1400lb sprintcar) it pushes pretty EZ with no hold on the steering wheel, my observation ,and common practice it to try keep the car turning left moderately, when the " LIL 4wheeler that could" encounters higher resistance the (team) will have the car up to speed and carrying momentum thus easier on the push vehical, i too have noticed some of these quads must have extreemly strong chains or more ponies than we think they have? otherwise its just become habit how to move a moutain with a tricycle,
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We push ours around on pavement,with stagger, up the curb,everywhere with the 90.
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November 23, 2013 at
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Posted By: stealth14 on November 23 2013 at 08:39:03 AM
We push ours around on pavement,with stagger, up the curb,everywhere with the 90.
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really? those things must have more power than I give them credit for, never had any issues with parts ect? i would think it is a little hard on them, besides telling the mechanic what the pushbumper is for?,lol, if not, heck, they are the cats meow, small, compact, good on fuel,dont take up alot of room in the trailer, EZ to hop on and check things frequently, if it pushes the car quickley to staging with no sweat, whats not to like, I thought about getting one myself, pretty sure i can find room for it in the trailer, and my lil nephew can enjoy it when not raceday..
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November 24, 2013 at
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Which Polaris 90 do you have? I had a Polaris Sportsman 90 and it sucked ass pushing a sprint car. It wasnt because of lack of engine power, it was because of the snowmobile like CVT transmission they used. If/once you got up to speed it was ok but it was hard to get it going because they of the 1 speed transmission and the clutch would just slip like crazy. Never again would I buy one of those Polris 90's.
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November 24, 2013 at
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Posted By: fiveothis on November 24 2013 at 08:48:40 AM
Which Polaris 90 do you have? I had a Polaris Sportsman 90 and it sucked ass pushing a sprint car. It wasnt because of lack of engine power, it was because of the snowmobile like CVT transmission they used. If/once you got up to speed it was ok but it was hard to get it going because they of the 1 speed transmission and the clutch would just slip like crazy. Never again would I buy one of those Polris 90's.
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I know years ago my (snowmobile)rotax 583 was a bit sleepy, after a new belt and resurfacing the clutch high and low pullies it was a night and day differeance, man it woke up then, I have a sportsman 400 w/same type drive system, its nice for ez of driving and wife can drive it with no problems, but i simply observed this same thing (youth atv) once the car got rolling it looks like it will handel it well, but like stated earlier some just haul, there must be direct transmissions being used on some of these 90-100's to get them up and rolling immediately its amazing, there isnt a rock pile somewhere full of these quads that were put to sleep, they must be building them stronger and better than they use to.. i cant imagine they were designed for that purpose , but, heck, Joey Chitwood never asked any questions about warranty..
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November 25, 2013 at
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Mine was brand new, so the clutch setup being worn out couldnt have been and issue. I then went to the extent of changing the rear sprocket to get more low end punch and change the clutch pulley setup to agan help the low end punch as these peices were available for the youth model that the little guys race. Neither did enough for me to keep the unit. I beleive the ones that you guys are seeing that rocket past is the honda trx90x. It has a auto clutch setup but a 4 speed transmission unlike the others with the CVT trans.
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November 25, 2013 at
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Posted By: fiveothis on November 25 2013 at 08:12:47 AM
Mine was brand new, so the clutch setup being worn out couldnt have been and issue. I then went to the extent of changing the rear sprocket to get more low end punch and change the clutch pulley setup to agan help the low end punch as these peices were available for the youth model that the little guys race. Neither did enough for me to keep the unit. I beleive the ones that you guys are seeing that rocket past is the honda trx90x. It has a auto clutch setup but a 4 speed transmission unlike the others with the CVT trans.
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is that the "race" or "Fat Kid " kit, lol , anyway, ya, if it was fairly new that cancels out the possibility of glazing, belt, ect I thought I seen quite a few polaris youth race style models being used, im not sure thier model name again?, is it the scrambler? the ones without the cargo racks ect, like you stated yours was the sportsman, I guess I never payed attention to see if those were pushing much? altho the cargo rack would be handy for air tank ect, if the Honda is the hot ticket i could understand that, we had hondas as kids , man were we hard on them now looking back, running low on oil,never serviced,plugging up the heat sinks,chains,forks , you name it kids can deal the punishment to them, luckily my dad always mixed the fuel, I would have burnt that thing down or killed a thousand misqitoes and four thousand plugs ( he proubly didnt want to keep buying plugs or pistons lol ) well, good info here , may keep a few of us from purchasing something less than desired,
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November 26, 2013 at
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The polaris 90 without the racks is the outlaw. But it has the exact same drivetrain as the sportsman
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