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Topic: Knoxville Nats qualifying format unfair By Shawn Miller - Only on RacinBoys Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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Scott T
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August 12, 2013 at 12:31:20 AM
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Knoxville Nationals qualifying format unfair

 

By Shawn Miller (Knoxville, IA) — To be blunt, the qualifying aspect for the Knoxville Nationals sucks. The format is unfair and it puts too much of an emphasis on arguably the most boring part of any race.  However, this isn’t a column about whether or not qualifying should be a part of the sport. Rather, I want to focus on why the qualifying system should be adapted, especially during the premier event of the season with a check for $150,000 on the line.

 

For the rest of Shawn Millers column visit RacinBoys.

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kooks
August 12, 2013 at 12:42:00 AM
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Posted By: Scott T on August 12 2013 at 12:31:20 AM

Knoxville Nationals qualifying format unfair

 

By Shawn Miller (Knoxville, IA) — To be blunt, the qualifying aspect for the Knoxville Nationals sucks. The format is unfair and it puts too much of an emphasis on arguably the most boring part of any race.  However, this isn’t a column about whether or not qualifying should be a part of the sport. Rather, I want to focus on why the qualifying system should be adapted, especially during the premier event of the season with a check for $150,000 on the line.

 

For the rest of Shawn Millers column visit RacinBoys.

http://www.racinboys.com/



Without even reading it I'll say Shawn Miller is flat out wrong.

 

The ONLY thing wrong with the qualifying night format is that they no longer invert the ENTIRE heat race.

 

 

 



2c Team
August 12, 2013 at 02:08:25 AM
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Posted By: kooks on August 12 2013 at 12:42:00 AM

Without even reading it I'll say Shawn Miller is flat out wrong.

 

The ONLY thing wrong with the qualifying night format is that they no longer invert the ENTIRE heat race.

 

 

 



I have always liked the format. It makes for great racing and the "big dogs" don't always start up front. They used the total invert when they had like 60+ cars each night. The ones that timed from 50 on back had to run a last chance race to tag the back of the C. With only about 50 cars each night you don't want the 10 slowest cars in qualifing on the front rows of the heats. I can understand that.  If the car count is there and they can run a last chance race for the slowest 10-15 cars they would have a total invert.




meatbag
August 12, 2013 at 05:29:11 AM
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Let me signup and pay to read an article? No thanks.


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pic1940
August 12, 2013 at 07:33:43 AM
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Posted By: meatbag on August 12 2013 at 05:29:11 AM

Let me signup and pay to read an article? No thanks.



RacinBoys had a better site when it was free.  They sure messed up THEIR site when they changed it.
Maybe they will blame that on Terry McCarl, when RacinBoys changed their site it was a big mistake.



Speed Racer 9
August 12, 2013 at 07:50:21 AM
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Would love to read the article, but sorry I'm not paying to read an article!




ozzie07
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August 12, 2013 at 07:51:39 AM
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Unfair? hahaha Please, maybe to the guy who can't qualify or pass cars.



MoOpenwheel
August 12, 2013 at 08:20:29 AM
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The only thing unfair about the nationals is allowing Donny Schatz to compete.  Oh, and the provisional, or whatever it's called, from some race that you had to race somewhere else to be even be eligible for.  How did they decide on an invert of 14 cars anyway?  That made as much difference and anything.  Invert any other number and someone else would probably have been in.



thowell29
August 12, 2013 at 08:20:44 AM
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Every year someone says the format is unfair or should be changed. This is the best format in sprint car racing. One day they are going to change it because the right person complained enough and then it will not be the same.  Don't fix something that isn't broke.




larryitis
August 12, 2013 at 08:57:49 AM
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Yes, these criticisms are hard to take seriously, considering how successful the whole thing is. They did a good job tweaking Friday night, now let's give the track some credit. Grandstand was packed! 


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Scott T
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August 12, 2013 at 01:04:50 PM
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Nearly everything on RacinBoys is still FREE..

 

All Lucas Oil ASCS broadcasts (audio) are FREE

All United Rebel Sprint Series broadcast (audio) are FREE

All the featured stories are FREE (National and Regional)

You can watch and listen to our show called "Track Talk"  FREE every Saturday morning (Replays are in member section)

Our forum board is FREE

Our classified section is FREE

You can watch our RacinBoys TV show for FREE on Metro Sports in Kansas City (replay is offered on member section)

 

FYI..we are not the only website that charges for a membership. RacinBoys wasn't the first to do so...All the websites below started charging before RacinBoys.

Jackslash.com 

TheCushion.com 

DirtonDirt.com 

RacinDirt.com 

 

The Lonnie Wheatley and Shawn Miller columns and the videos are the only things we charge for. Lonnie and Shawn are paid for their services. Kirk and I have nearly work for free the last 10 years to bring you everything on RacinBoys.com. If we didn't start charging for something soon we could have been looking at no RacinBoys in the future. I've spent my personal life savings to to keep RacinBoys up and running for the last 10 years, that money would have ran out eventually. I'm not rich, just a working man trying to make a small income doing what I love to do...covering motorsports and bringing it to the fans!

 

Sorry if you don't understand

Scott Traylor

 

 

 

  


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oldsprint27
August 12, 2013 at 01:27:18 PM
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The Nationals are the best.....  Very hard but who says the National Championship should be easy.....  Who cares if Shawn Miller doesn't like it.....  Every night had good hard racing, every night had drama, everynight had surprises both in drivers that did better than expected and drivers who did worse than expected...  At least this year Donnie gave everyone a chance to beat him, even though it didn't matter.....  If you weren't there, you missed a great show and it even had great weather..... Lots of other fun things to do while there also.......  Five Stars!




Just-a-fan
August 12, 2013 at 03:02:51 PM
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Posted By: oldsprint27 on August 12 2013 at 01:27:18 PM

The Nationals are the best.....  Very hard but who says the National Championship should be easy.....  Who cares if Shawn Miller doesn't like it.....  Every night had good hard racing, every night had drama, everynight had surprises both in drivers that did better than expected and drivers who did worse than expected...  At least this year Donnie gave everyone a chance to beat him, even though it didn't matter.....  If you weren't there, you missed a great show and it even had great weather..... Lots of other fun things to do while there also.......  Five Stars!




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oswald
August 12, 2013 at 03:10:15 PM
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If Shawn Miller does not like the Nationals format the he should just stay home. And why would I pay to read one persons opinion that is no more important or right/wrong than any one elses?



HoldenCaulfield
August 12, 2013 at 03:25:38 PM
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Did the format yield the best 25 cars? Probably. Did it produce passing? The winner started 21st. No system is perfect but this one seems pretty good.


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TWSprunk
August 12, 2013 at 05:38:41 PM
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Posted By: oldsprint27 on August 12 2013 at 01:27:18 PM

The Nationals are the best.....  Very hard but who says the National Championship should be easy.....  Who cares if Shawn Miller doesn't like it.....  Every night had good hard racing, every night had drama, everynight had surprises both in drivers that did better than expected and drivers who did worse than expected...  At least this year Donnie gave everyone a chance to beat him, even though it didn't matter.....  If you weren't there, you missed a great show and it even had great weather..... Lots of other fun things to do while there also.......  Five Stars!



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Good job Knoxville.



WoOSprint514
August 12, 2013 at 05:49:47 PM
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Who the hell is Shawn Miller anyway?




21wforacer
August 12, 2013 at 06:03:55 PM
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Nothing is stopping him from making his own race track and using what ever format he sees fit........And Paying to read your opionion is like paying to watch a nascar race retarded. 


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I aim to hit the target.


meatbag
August 12, 2013 at 08:26:06 PM
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Nearly everything on RacinBoys is still FREE..

 

All Lucas Oil ASCS broadcasts (audio) are FREE

All United Rebel Sprint Series broadcast (audio) are FREE

All the featured stories are FREE (National and Regional)

You can watch and listen to our show called "Track Talk"  FREE every Saturday morning (Replays are in member section)

Our forum board is FREE

Our classified section is FREE

You can watch our RacinBoys TV show for FREE on Metro Sports in Kansas City (replay is offered on member section)

 

FYI..we are not the only website that charges for a membership. RacinBoys wasn't the first to do so...All the websites below started charging before RacinBoys.

Jackslash.com 

TheCushion.com 

DirtonDirt.com 

RacinDirt.com 

 

The Lonnie Wheatley and Shawn Miller columns and the videos are the only things we charge for. Lonnie and Shawn are paid for their services. Kirk and I have nearly work for free the last 10 years to bring you everything on RacinBoys.com. If we didn't start charging for something soon we could have been looking at no RacinBoys in the future. I've spent my personal life savings to to keep RacinBoys up and running for the last 10 years, that money would have ran out eventually. I'm not rich, just a working man trying to make a small income doing what I love to do...covering motorsports and bringing it to the fans!

 

Sorry if you don't understand

Scott Traylor

 

 

 

  



Sadly, the only 2 things I want to read on there are this article and Wheatleys open wheel rankings.  I'll pay to watch vids (i do on jackslash and the cushion) but I'm not paying to read a few articles.


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slick01
August 12, 2013 at 08:45:39 PM
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Hummm, I am a reckoning Shawn's clients didn't fare too well? I reckon an ASCS pill draw would have been more fair for the biggest race of the year.





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