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ebecker
May 28, 2013 at 10:57:48 AM
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I know, run a chevy, but we aren't. So, we need a u joint for a 351c. Any thoughts? Wingless class with the UMSS in Wisconsin. Any help appreciated.




RacerX20
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May 28, 2013 at 11:05:52 AM
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Good to see another Ford running in sprint cars. I run a 351w now, but moving up to a 408 soon. The u joint I use was purchased from Cressman Enterprises in Hartford, SD. They do a lot of Ford sprint car engines and parts. I also use a front cover and water pump mount from them as well. Nice pieces that they make. Give them a call and see if they have what you need or can make it for you. http://cressmanenterprises.com/ or 605-528-5656.


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Sprinter 79
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May 28, 2013 at 01:43:53 PM
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http://www.speedwaymotors.com/MPD-Racing-063801-Roush-Yates-Ford-Sprint-Car-U-Joint-Assembly,60681.html
Never hit stationary objects!


chucknutts
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May 28, 2013 at 02:58:20 PM
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I would go with the Cressman unit, nice piece and has advantages over the rest. Give them a call before you buy anything else to get the details 605-528-5656


 It's not a wall,grow some balls boy,its a cement 
cushion!!  
          

brettco
May 28, 2013 at 04:00:40 PM
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Cressman saved my life one night at kville. He didn't Tbone me. Thanks.

minthess
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May 28, 2013 at 08:53:16 PM
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Are you OK? I mean you might wind up in jail. Not just a Ford but a Cleveland as well? If the the wrong girls hear about this, you are in big trouble. Canted valves even in small block heads right from grammy's station wagon are considered exotic and detremental to the sport! Haven't you heard? Evil Knevel has nothing on you. It looks like UMSS are the new true Outlaws.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


ebecker
May 28, 2013 at 08:56:19 PM
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Posted By: minthess on May 28 2013 at 08:53:16 PM

Are you OK? I mean you might wind up in jail. Not just a Ford but a Cleveland as well? If the the wrong girls hear about this, you are in big trouble. Canted valves even in small block heads right from grammy's station wagon are considered exotic and detremental to the sport! Haven't you heard? Evil Knevel has nothing on you. It looks like UMSS are the new true Outlaws.



Shhhhh............. Not so loud. lol



minthess
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May 28, 2013 at 09:08:24 PM
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Posted By: ebecker on May 28 2013 at 08:56:19 PM

Shhhhh............. Not so loud. lol



Do you have pics of the car or know of any online? Whats the drivers name?


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Sprinter 79
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May 30, 2013 at 03:40:41 PM
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Looks like you might have started something here ebeck! wink
Never hit stationary objects!


CSMoses
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May 30, 2013 at 08:05:39 PM
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Of course I'd suggest the MPD u-joint from Speedway, I will say that the Cressman u-joint is a very nice piece. In fact, they make a lot of nice looking components. The Cressman's have been "blue oval believers" for a long time.

ebecker, I hope you find what you're looking for! Good luck on the season!



ebecker
May 30, 2013 at 08:21:55 PM
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Thanks for all the help. Jim, I didn't know what the Rousch Ford used for a crank, you would think with everything being aftermarket you would just build a sprint car crank with a standard chevy button. Sorry no pics yet, still a little ways away. It will definitely be a unique car when done. lol I talked to Cressman, great response and helpful, only problem was that the u-joint had to be used with their collar and ball, so $450, which isn't that much, but thought maybe there were some other methods. We though about a button that bolted to the ford crank with studs for a chevy u joint. Could even use a turned down Ford flywheel and then add studs?



Sprinter 79
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May 30, 2013 at 10:15:38 PM
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This message was edited on May 30, 2013 at 10:50:42 PM by Sprinter 79
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Posted By: ebecker on May 30 2013 at 08:21:55 PM

Thanks for all the help. Jim, I didn't know what the Rousch Ford used for a crank, you would think with everything being aftermarket you would just build a sprint car crank with a standard chevy button. Sorry no pics yet, still a little ways away. It will definitely be a unique car when done. lol I talked to Cressman, great response and helpful, only problem was that the u-joint had to be used with their collar and ball, so $450, which isn't that much, but thought maybe there were some other methods. We though about a button that bolted to the ford crank with studs for a chevy u joint. Could even use a turned down Ford flywheel and then add studs?



Firstly you could probably contact Roush through email or a phone call and ask them. They are making some 360's now for the ASCS and I am sure that they would tell you whether or not the one from Speedway would work with a stock crank. ....Worst case scenario you can make a coupler out of aluminum bar stock and use a steel coupler assembly. That is what we used to do with The Sportsman Midgets. The u-joints are cheap and the aluminum can be had from a scrap house pretty inexpensively. If you send me the back end off of an old crank I can make one for you. If you have access to a lathe you can make one yourself. With the rules that govern the class that you are running in you would not be hampered by a unit of this nature, and it might even go a long way towards getting more Fords into your class. If guys knew that they did not need to break the bank to make one work more folks might try it. If you want more information email me and I can get you pointed in the right direction. I might even know where there is an old 351 crank lying around to start the process. Let me know..... As for the coupler that will allow you to run the Chevy assembly, well you might end up too long with that deal and then need to start spacing the bell. Way too much effort if you ask me.
Never hit stationary objects!


RacerX20
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May 31, 2013 at 08:04:10 AM
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I run the u joint and bell combo from Cressman and have been for 7 years. We have never had a problem with it and it all bolts together nice and neat, with no need to have to fab anything yourself. He builds his bells pretty study, so there is some built in safety in case of u joint failure. I would opt for the Cressman u joint and bell. Save yourself time and money with not having to custom machine parts yourself. Just my two cents.



chucknutts
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May 31, 2013 at 09:45:04 PM
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The Cressman unit is ALL made from USA billet 7075 aluminum. The unit moves the pickup point 1" closer to the firewall. It is Patened and he makes and sells them for $450 for Chevys as well as Fords.


 It's not a wall,grow some balls boy,its a cement 
cushion!!  
          

ebecker
October 01, 2013 at 10:26:17 AM
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Posted By: minthess on May 28 2013 at 09:08:24 PM

Do you have pics of the car or know of any online? Whats the drivers name?



Finally have a pic worth showing.  Here is the Pasko Ford/Sundown Motorsports car.




Sprinter 79
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October 01, 2013 at 01:56:56 PM
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Cool man, that car looks vaugely familiar. Good luck with it ebecker, I hope you have a good time.


Never hit stationary objects!

RacerX20
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October 01, 2013 at 02:05:54 PM
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Looks good with that Ford under the hood.  Where do you plan on racing at?



ebecker
October 01, 2013 at 02:54:38 PM
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We will run weekly at St. Croix Falls, WI with the wingless UMSS.




minthess
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October 01, 2013 at 05:06:03 PM
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This message was edited on October 01, 2013 at 05:06:49 PM by minthess
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Posted By: ebecker on October 01 2013 at 02:54:38 PM

We will run weekly at St. Croix Falls, WI with the wingless UMSS.



Thanks for the efforts sir. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

meatbag
October 02, 2013 at 03:50:02 AM
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Posted By: ebecker on May 30 2013 at 08:21:55 PM

Thanks for all the help. Jim, I didn't know what the Rousch Ford used for a crank, you would think with everything being aftermarket you would just build a sprint car crank with a standard chevy button. Sorry no pics yet, still a little ways away. It will definitely be a unique car when done. lol I talked to Cressman, great response and helpful, only problem was that the u-joint had to be used with their collar and ball, so $450, which isn't that much, but thought maybe there were some other methods. We though about a button that bolted to the ford crank with studs for a chevy u joint. Could even use a turned down Ford flywheel and then add studs?



You can't put a chevy bolt pattern on a ford crank flange.  The flange O.D. isn't big enough to hold the bolt circle pattern of a chevy.


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