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We are only 1 week way from the big money races and Goodyear is running out of tires. For the past couple weeks many of the top tier series have been on limited or no available certain tires. From what I am hearing, there are no 200 compound left rear tires available anywhere, a very limited to possibly no 200 right rear tires and a very thin amount of certain size 100 compound left rear tires. How are the teams supposed to race these big money races with no tires available. At what point do the series just open up the tire rule. Isnt Goodyear under some sort of contract to have an ample supply of tires available? What happens if they cannot supply enough tires for these races? Anyone?????

The same thing happened back in the late 80's , Goodyear could not keep up with the demand, this was one reason teams looked for other options!! in the late 80's you could not give Hoosiers away!!! Everyone wanted Goodyears!!!! At that time there where M20's, M30's, and M40's!!!

same old song and dance!!!

Ask Frank

Out of 200's?

I don't know how that's possible, even when the tracks are taking rubber in hot laps, 99% of the Outlaws still run 100's because they hook up better.

The bottom line is this, the Outlaws, and knoxville, and PA, and OH, need to just mandate the hardest compound period.

The outlaws especially need to amend their tire rules, as it stands today, the tires only have to last for Time Trials, a 7 or 8 lap heat race, and the dash (should you finish in the top 2 of your heat or time well). They all get to bolt on new tires for the Feature.

Change the rule to 1 tire per night and they'll start running the harder compounds, heck, some of them can't make it through the 3 events listed, and that is a grand total of 17 laps or so.

Late Models run 100 lap features at many of the same tracks (and their tires are narrower) and have virtually the same horsepower and a heavier car. Why isn't Hoosier or Goodyear using those tire compounds for Sprint Car tires?? Maybe becuase they'd last too long and they couldn't sell as many tires...

+1 to everything you said.

The only thing I have to add is that they need to put similar rules in place for the Left rear.

Otherwise they'll still run the softest tire possible on the left rear and then it lays rubber & start popping.

I really like the one tire/night rule and it should be on both rear corners. If you switch tires, start at the back.

I won't be surprised if they do, but look for Hoosier to raise prices if they are the only game in town again.

Calling American Racer, get into the game hard and heavy if it's a bidding war. Seems like your tires always lasted and you can build rock hard tires (that was the 360 rule @ Kville for years, some guys ran the same tires the entire season).

If Goodyear gets out, the follow up question will be: Can Hoosier keep up with the high demand of one or two sets of rear tires per night, times however many sprintcars there are nation wide?

Northern California Sprintcars

Goodyear just had three speedweeks plus all their regular weekly and touring series, nationwide, to supply with rear tires. This is most likely why they are low on, or out of tires this week.

Northern California Sprintcars

since goodyear made the tracks, series and groups sign contracts saying they would only use goodyear tires....its their job to supply the tires. they knew speedweeks were going to be run before the season started. they are proving again and again that they not only have a product that needs work but that they cant keep up with the demand.

i hope all the tracks and series that took goodyears money look closely before picking their tire choices next time.

Goodyear were low on tires before either of the speedweeks even started,Goodyear were out of 200's when the Outlaws were at Dodge City,you couldnt even buy any Goodyear FRONT tires last week because they were all out!!

Its the left rear 200's that they have run out of so how do you fix that? start making 300 left rears so you have to run the SAME left rear all night? And what do you do about the fact that they CANT EVEN SUPPLY front tires right now? start running road car tires on the front?? lmao

Late Models boring? What are you smoking? Went to the Gopher 50 Late Model race at Deer Creek on Saturday and I guess cars going two/three wide the entire 50 lap race is boring. I guess the top three running three wide on the last lap would be boring. This attitude that sprint cars are the only form of acceptible racing and that only sprint cars can have good racing is pathetic and idiotic. Only idiots have this attitude, as well, sheesh.

The WoO Goodyear contract is up this year,so if they cant keep up with supply & demand I cant really see them getting another contract,especially when there product has been substandard the past few years.

As for Hoosier keeping up with supply & demand,they never ran out of tires the years they did have the contract,so cant see it being a problem for them,Goodyear should just stick to making their D8 Dozer tires,oh yeh whats that other tire they make? oh NAPCAR,they can stick with them too lol

Don't forget though. the WRG asked for a sub-standard product in order to make the racing better.

Were Hoosier tires better, Yes and No. They had just as many tire failures as Goodyear (they ran Hoosiers the year that Sides won the King's Royal and EVERYONE lost a tire, and the year that Erin Crocker won @ Tulare and everyone lost a tire, etc., etc.), but they were stickier and the cars went faster, but lacked passing (which is what a majority of the fans are paying to see).

WRG asked to have a harder tire and stiffer sidewall, Hoosier didn't want to do it, Goodyear did, so they got the contract. Overall, racing has been better (more passing).

I remember back in the 80's when pretty much EVERYONE ran Goodyears and hardly anyone ran Hoosier. Heck, it wasn't until Steve Kinser signed a contract with Hoosier in the late 90's or early 2000's before their tires became what they were (the ones to beat).

IMO, the best thing they can do for the racing FAN is to have a hard tire rule in place (I don't care what brand or brands), but make the rules be that they have to punch a certain hardness and you only get to use 1 LR and 1 RR each race night without a penalty.

For those bashing the Late Models, the Late Model Nationals @ Knoxville have produced better racing, more passing, and is almost as much fun as the Sprint Nationals IMO. Plus their tires last for the entire 100 lap feature, the sprints aren't even making it close to that (Dobmeier blew a tire @ Knoxville Saturday night on lap 16 of the feature (1 lap in time trials, 8 laps in his heat and only 16 laps in the feature for a grand total of 25 laps on the LR).