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September 19, 2011 at
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Does anyone have experience with Moyle Racing Engines in Knoxville? We've bought tires from him, but never any engine work. Seems like a great guy to work with. I'm interested in having him build a Midwest 305 engine to run at Knoxville. Anyone have any experience they care to share?
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September 19, 2011 at
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He building motors for Dennis Moore Jr . He's good wilf treat you right I've known him for years .he's building motors us now . Mark vanhaffton won last race of the year at knoxville with one .
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September 19, 2011 at
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Actually it was Mike Van Haaften that won last night of knoxville which was the first night he got the motor back from Jaymie. His cousin Nate drove it Saturday night in Donnellson and also won. Jaymie is a great guy and knows what he is doing
Matt Blom
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September 19, 2011 at
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Posted By: mat on September 19 2011 at 06:48:44 PM
Actually it was Mike Van Haaften that won last night of knoxville which was the first night he got the motor back from Jaymie. His cousin Nate drove it Saturday night in Donnellson and also won. Jaymie is a great guy and knows what he is doing
Matt Blom
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Is that engine Knoxville 305 legal or Midwest 305 legal? I'm still undecided which flavor I would build.
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September 19, 2011 at
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If you build a Knoxville legal motor you are locked in to one track. If you put a mid west or 34 raceway legal motor you have more options of tracks on off nights.
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September 19, 2011 at
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Posted By: N.G. on September 19 2011 at 08:51:13 PM
If you build a Knoxville legal motor you are locked in to one track. If you put a mid west or 34 raceway legal motor you have more options of tracks on off nights.
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the only difference is that knoxville allowes the drysump and a crank drive waterpump there is no hoursepower gain just a better and safer way to oil the motor.
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September 19, 2011 at
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Don't disagree that one bit. I killed a lot of motors this year due to the oiling of the 305. But there are some ok paying shows at other tracks that don't allow drysump motors.
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September 20, 2011 at
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Posted By: N.G. on September 19 2011 at 09:55:43 PM
Don't disagree that one bit. I killed a lot of motors this year due to the oiling of the 305. But there are some ok paying shows at other tracks that don't allow drysump motors.
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Thanks for clarifying the difference in the 2 engines. I hadn't read the rules that close yet. What would it take to get the Midwest 305 guys to move to the Knoxville rules? If there is no hp difference, it seems the Knoxville rules would help the motor live longer, saving some money in the long run. It also wouldn't put anyone at a disadvanatge hp wise.
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September 20, 2011 at
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There is a big gap between the top 5 at k/vill and the guys at 34 or the midwest guys. the 34 and midwest guys have around $ 5,000 to $9.000 in their engines...some of the k/vill guys have over $25,000 .check the
classifieds on hoseheads
Ball wants $17,000 for his used engine and Mcarl is asking $14,000 for his...the rules need to be fixed before this great little division dies
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September 20, 2011 at
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Posted By: pinksprinter6 on September 19 2011 at 09:43:19 PM
the only difference is that knoxville allowes the drysump and a crank drive waterpump there is no hoursepower gain just a better and safer way to oil the motor.
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The reason dry sump was originally designed was to be able to run thinner less restrictive oil rings to create more horse power and less windage on the crankshaft (creating more horse power) dry sump is to expensive for a budget motor class ,
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September 20, 2011 at
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Posted By: sprintfn1 on September 20 2011 at 08:05:49 AM
There is a big gap between the top 5 at k/vill and the guys at 34 or the midwest guys. the 34 and midwest guys have around $ 5,000 to $9.000 in their engines...some of the k/vill guys have over $25,000 .check the
classifieds on hoseheads
Ball wants $17,000 for his used engine and Mcarl is asking $14,000 for his...the rules need to be fixed before this great little division dies
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How many of the Midwest 305 cars that have $5000-$9000 in their motors are having them built at Ostrich? There is a difference between home built cost and store bought cost. We had less than $10K in our motors and could run with Ball and McCarl. Just because they cost $15K and up doesn't mean they have any different parts in them than you can put in at home yourself.......I still want to see a bill from one of the motor builders to see what the labor cost is. I would guess your "high dollar" motors actually cost about the same as everyone elses.......
As for drysump, it's the only way to go if you are running tracks like Knoxville. Yes, you can get away with a wetsump, for a while.....Used drysump systems aren't that expensive either. I have 2 complete systems, both were bought for less than $550, pan, lines, pump, the whole thing...Saying they cost $2500 to put on a motor, you are right, if you buy it all new....That is like the motor cost, depends on how you look at it.
The rules don't need fixed in this class, the rules need ENFORCED in this class....
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