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short1988
July 21, 2011 at 12:22:52 PM
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After going to Lernerville and Eldora this past week I realize Knoxville does some things better than a lot of tracks, and lacks in some departments. I'll start with the positives from Knoxville first. Knoxville by far has the best safety crew in the country, they are the best prepared and quickest to respond to any accident. Second Knoxville has far nicer facilities than any track that I have been to yet (tracks include Eagle, US 36, Knoxville, Davenport, Eldora, Lernerville). However, Knoxville needs to improve on a few things, the first of which is the pace of the event. Eldora and Lernerville both moved faster than a show at Knoxville. Eldora had cars lined up and ready to go and they seem to run pace laps than they do at Knoxville which seemed to help move the night along rather quick. Second, Knoxville concession prices are outrageous when compared to Eldora's prices. This is supposed to be affordable family fun, and at Eldora it is, when you go to Knoxville you can't get out of there with out spending $20 on food for two people. One last "complaint" about Knoxville our the fans. All of the fans like myself that live within a reasonable driving distance of Knoxville are spoiled. We have the opportunity to experience sprint car racing at it's finest at the mecca of sprint car racing week in and week out, yet attendance looks poor and lack luster. I met fans this week that would kill to be in our position and we need to step up and start enjoying what we are so lucky to have, which is great racing. The fans at these other tracks are more energetic and made me love sprint car racing even more than I already do...I think it's time for us fans to bring that same energy and excitement to Knoxville!


vande77
July 21, 2011 at 02:12:52 PM
Joined: 01/20/2005
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I'll partially agree....

I think that the size of the grandstands @ Knoxville make the weekly crowd look poorer than it actually is.

Concessions: I'm disappointed that some items are expensive (tenderloins, pizza), but I don't go to eat a meal every week. From an overall price standpoint, it's still way, WAY cheaper than going to the movies (Knoxville's popcorn is $1.50, Movie Theater is $3.75 and I get less).

Speed of the show: You attended Outlaw Shows if you went in the past week and the Outlaws run it at the same speed at every event (certain # of laps from pushing off to lining up, certain # of minutes between heats and Dash/B/A). Doubtful that it ran that much quicker except track size differences.

I too have been to many, many racetracks, and I have yet to run across one that on a consistent basis puts together a tigher packed show than Knoxville does (at least the ones that run Sprints).

I hear people complain that Knoxville takes too many breaks, yet the only break in the action weekly (except Red Flags for crashes) is the 8 minute intermission so they can give away prizes to the fans that the sponsors are giving away. Guess maybe they should go back to the "good old days" of the late 80's and have the weekly shows run until 1:30 or 2:00 AM every week like they did back then (starting time was the same and car count was actually less than today's (total # of cars in the pits)).

As far as the fans go, I'll put it this way, Eldora is a destination only, 90% of the fans attending the King's Royal do not live there (same way for the Nationals @ Knoxville). To truely compare apples to apples, go for a regular weekly show and compare.

Knoxville can do better and maybe if they hire a PROMOTER (instead of someone that still has the mindset of "open the gates and they'll show up promotoing" to take over for Cappi at the end of the season, the fan count at weekly shows will go up.



Bill W
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July 21, 2011 at 03:50:55 PM
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Try broadcasting from Knoxville, and try getting all your commercials in. I dare you! LOL

I've been to tracks coast to coast and no one compares at keeping the show moving, getting cars cleaned up, having push trucks ready, etc. the list goes on and on...They run 3 divisions, start at 7ish with hot laps, and are consistently done between 10 and 10:30.

p.s. I was still waiting on King's Royal results from the Eastern Time Zone when we were done with 3 divisions here in CST last Saturday. Just saying...it's not even close at most places.

With 8,000 fans our frontstretch is still half empty...


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linbob
July 21, 2011 at 03:58:39 PM
Joined: 03/12/2011
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Posted By: short1988 on July 21 2011 at 12:22:52 PM
After going to Lernerville and Eldora this past week I realize Knoxville does some things better than a lot of tracks, and lacks in some departments. I'll start with the positives from Knoxville first. Knoxville by far has the best safety crew in the country, they are the best prepared and quickest to respond to any accident. Second Knoxville has far nicer facilities than any track that I have been to yet (tracks include Eagle, US 36, Knoxville, Davenport, Eldora, Lernerville). However, Knoxville needs to improve on a few things, the first of which is the pace of the event. Eldora and Lernerville both moved faster than a show at Knoxville. Eldora had cars lined up and ready to go and they seem to run pace laps than they do at Knoxville which seemed to help move the night along rather quick. Second, Knoxville concession prices are outrageous when compared to Eldora's prices. This is supposed to be affordable family fun, and at Eldora it is, when you go to Knoxville you can't get out of there with out spending $20 on food for two people. One last "complaint" about Knoxville our the fans. All of the fans like myself that live within a reasonable driving distance of Knoxville are spoiled. We have the opportunity to experience sprint car racing at it's finest at the mecca of sprint car racing week in and week out, yet attendance looks poor and lack luster. I met fans this week that would kill to be in our position and we need to step up and start enjoying what we are so lucky to have, which is great racing. The fans at these other tracks are more energetic and made me love sprint car racing even more than I already do...I think it's time for us fans to bring that same energy and excitement to Knoxville!


i DO NOT THINK $4.00 FOR HAMBURGER IS TOO MUCH. I also would like to see more fans, but weather has been quite hot. You also don,t see the fans in suites. . I really do not think program is way to long, If you do not have car ready to race before the other race finishes you have to start in rear We have 3 classes of sprint cars. If you think program is long go to a race when sprint cars must share a program with 4 classes of stock cars.



Sprint*Scribe
July 21, 2011 at 04:05:31 PM
Joined: 12/09/2004
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Posted By: Bill W on July 21 2011 at 03:50:55 PM

Try broadcasting from Knoxville, and try getting all your commercials in. I dare you! LOL

I've been to tracks coast to coast and no one compares at keeping the show moving, getting cars cleaned up, having push trucks ready, etc. the list goes on and on...They run 3 divisions, start at 7ish with hot laps, and are consistently done between 10 and 10:30.

p.s. I was still waiting on King's Royal results from the Eastern Time Zone when we were done with 3 divisions here in CST last Saturday. Just saying...it's not even close at most places.

With 8,000 fans our frontstretch is still half empty...



AMEN to everything Bill W said here. If anyone thinks the break is too long, come on up to the pressbox and we'll put you to work and see if you can keep up.



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