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fastrip
August 22, 2010 at 08:25:09 AM
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You know if this isn't a case of financial influence we are all really kidding ourselves.

Lets see, who out there likes the GOODYEAR sprint car tire?

Years ago we dreaded big shows where the MONEY teams could afford to put fresh GOODYEARS on for every race and qualifying and hot laps. That was because they did whatever they did and just didn't work after that first real heat cycle.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? I suppose no one out there has noticed an advantage in a fresh tire versus one that has been cycled once or more.

You know GOODYEARS position here could be quite admirable could they simply provide a tire that worked like the HOOSIER did, but lasted even longer. Everyone races on the same tires anyhow, why not make the tire that's second from the soft end or even third, the soft tire??

Just food for thought.

Fastrip


Never start fast projects with half fast ideas!!


sprinter25
August 22, 2010 at 09:37:05 AM
Joined: 11/30/2004
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Posted By: fastrip on August 22 2010 at 08:25:09 AM

You know if this isn't a case of financial influence we are all really kidding ourselves.

Lets see, who out there likes the GOODYEAR sprint car tire?

Years ago we dreaded big shows where the MONEY teams could afford to put fresh GOODYEARS on for every race and qualifying and hot laps. That was because they did whatever they did and just didn't work after that first real heat cycle.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? I suppose no one out there has noticed an advantage in a fresh tire versus one that has been cycled once or more.

You know GOODYEARS position here could be quite admirable could they simply provide a tire that worked like the HOOSIER did, but lasted even longer. Everyone races on the same tires anyhow, why not make the tire that's second from the soft end or even third, the soft tire??

Just food for thought.

Fastrip



If used Hoosiers were so good, why did Hoosier sell new tires????

Just sayin'......


Chuck.....

msu12
August 22, 2010 at 03:30:25 PM
Joined: 07/31/2005
Posts: 312
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Posted By: fastrip on August 22 2010 at 08:25:09 AM

You know if this isn't a case of financial influence we are all really kidding ourselves.

Lets see, who out there likes the GOODYEAR sprint car tire?

Years ago we dreaded big shows where the MONEY teams could afford to put fresh GOODYEARS on for every race and qualifying and hot laps. That was because they did whatever they did and just didn't work after that first real heat cycle.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? I suppose no one out there has noticed an advantage in a fresh tire versus one that has been cycled once or more.

You know GOODYEARS position here could be quite admirable could they simply provide a tire that worked like the HOOSIER did, but lasted even longer. Everyone races on the same tires anyhow, why not make the tire that's second from the soft end or even third, the soft tire??

Just food for thought.

Fastrip



Yet another bashing of Goodyear without any statistical evidence to support your opinion against their tire.




lake_carl
August 22, 2010 at 03:53:15 PM
Joined: 01/22/2005
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food for thought or foot in mouth or perhaps a lower opening



mjm sleepy
August 22, 2010 at 04:29:44 PM
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Tim Shaffer probably could show you 150,000 reasons to like them.



egras
August 22, 2010 at 04:42:33 PM
Joined: 08/16/2009
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1. Best WOO racing in years, maybe decades

2. Best nationals in years, maybe decades

3. Cars coming from 18th and 23rd (?)to win A main

4. Second to last lap pass to win Kings Royal

5. Second to last lap pass to win Nationals

6. Two of the last 3 races in World of outlaws less than .1 of a second finish

The last thing i want to here about is all of the problems with sprint car racing right now. That will be soley up to the WOO, the drivers, Goodyear, Hoosiers, and all of the other series involved in the decision. i am going to sit back and enjoy the ride.




fastrip
August 22, 2010 at 09:57:07 PM
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I see and none of this could happen on Hoosiers, or didn't the whole time they were the tire?

The part I have nothing stuffed in, hears way more complaints about the GOODYEAR them I ever heard about the Hoosier. Sorry personal experiance there not internet propoganda.


Never start fast projects with half fast ideas!!

lake_carl
August 22, 2010 at 10:18:23 PM
Joined: 01/22/2005
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fastrip, from my memory there was just as much bitching when hoosier became a spec tire, statistically I have never read or seen any proof of actual more tire failures than average, double dog dare you to try to show proof



mo21sprint
August 22, 2010 at 10:29:29 PM
Joined: 11/30/2004
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If Hoosier HAD NOT started this tire war by going away with the SC25 like we ran at Farmington,MO and went to 3 different tires for the right rear and making you buy a left also. Goodyear would not have got involved.




pic1940
August 23, 2010 at 10:07:22 AM
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Posted By: lake_carl on August 22 2010 at 10:18:23 PM

fastrip, from my memory there was just as much bitching when hoosier became a spec tire, statistically I have never read or seen any proof of actual more tire failures than average, double dog dare you to try to show proof



Marsh Racing Tires, are they still around? LOL I know they make wheels.



bkbryan
August 23, 2010 at 10:46:52 AM
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Posted By: pic1940 on August 23 2010 at 10:07:22 AM

Marsh Racing Tires, are they still around? LOL I know they make wheels.



What do the racers say?



egras
August 23, 2010 at 12:13:51 PM
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Posted By: fastrip on August 22 2010 at 09:57:07 PM

I see and none of this could happen on Hoosiers, or didn't the whole time they were the tire?

The part I have nothing stuffed in, hears way more complaints about the GOODYEAR them I ever heard about the Hoosier. Sorry personal experiance there not internet propoganda.



Didnt say it couldnt happen on Hoosiers. I am just saying i have no reason to bash anyone. It has been an incredible year of racing for the fans, and the fans are the most important variable in this entire equation. That being said, i am going to enjoy the rest of the WOO points battle, reminisce about the Knoxville nationals, and whatever decisions they make for next year, is up to them. It is entirely possible that the great racing in the WOO could be attributed to the double file restart. I don't know. But I do know that there is no reason for any fan to be upset with the racing this year in any way. If there is a tire issue that is affecting certain drivers, Goodyear, the WOO, and the WOO teams will handle that themselves. I have my own job to worry about. Watching racing is a recreation for me and it has been very, very good this year.





from a sponsor
August 23, 2010 at 12:58:36 PM
Joined: 05/19/2005
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After driving along the interstate for about 400 plus miles I had a thought as I seen blown tires along side the highway. After seeing about 4 of them, I began to pull over to investigate. Not one Hoosier out of 30 tires.



George Costanza
August 23, 2010 at 04:35:24 PM
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Posted By: from a sponsor on August 23 2010 at 12:58:36 PM

After driving along the interstate for about 400 plus miles I had a thought as I seen blown tires along side the highway. After seeing about 4 of them, I began to pull over to investigate. Not one Hoosier out of 30 tires.



Didn't they stop making car tires a few years ago due to some lawsuits or something to do with failures? Can't remember for sure if it was them or not, just remember something like that.



vanh
August 23, 2010 at 04:56:39 PM
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Posted By: George Costanza on August 23 2010 at 04:35:24 PM

Didn't they stop making car tires a few years ago due to some lawsuits or something to do with failures? Can't remember for sure if it was them or not, just remember something like that.



You just can't fix stupid can you.

I do not know but I think he was pulling our chain




George Costanza
August 23, 2010 at 05:22:22 PM
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Posted By: vanh on August 23 2010 at 04:56:39 PM

You just can't fix stupid can you.

I do not know but I think he was pulling our chain



I assumed that, but was just kinda asking a question.



texanfan
August 23, 2010 at 09:49:00 PM
Joined: 03/02/2010
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Posted By: from a sponsor on August 23 2010 at 12:58:36 PM

After driving along the interstate for about 400 plus miles I had a thought as I seen blown tires along side the highway. After seeing about 4 of them, I began to pull over to investigate. Not one Hoosier out of 30 tires.



lololol......Thats funny



bottomdollar
August 24, 2010 at 02:02:18 PM
Joined: 07/22/2010
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Posted By: fastrip on August 22 2010 at 09:57:07 PM

I see and none of this could happen on Hoosiers, or didn't the whole time they were the tire?

The part I have nothing stuffed in, hears way more complaints about the GOODYEAR them I ever heard about the Hoosier. Sorry personal experiance there not internet propoganda.



do any of you actually race? well i run a 410 sprint and the hoosier tires has issues as well. There are no perfect tires out there, never were.




racinartist2
August 24, 2010 at 08:47:49 PM
Joined: 10/27/2005
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If memory serves, 2 or 3 years ago there were probably more Hoosiers that 'failed' in one Kings Royal A main than Goodyears that 'failed' the entire week of the Nationals this year...

Just sayin





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