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Dirthawk
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August 16, 2010 at 10:45:16 AM
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WoO: 8

15, 7, 91x, 7s, 63, 1, 11, 9

Knoxville Locals: 6

56, 49, 21, 91, 12, 2

No 410 Affiliation: 4

57, 3, 41, 98

ASCoC/ Ohio Locals: 3

83, 2B, 7TW

PA Locals: 3

22, 1z, 13x

 

 

Biggest Surprise: 56 - Davey Heskin

Biggest Underacheiver: 15H - Sam Hafertepe

Worst luck: 53 - Jack Dover

 




Ben 31
August 16, 2010 at 11:03:48 AM
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I'm not starting trouble but I have a bit of a different take on this...

I don't think the 1 and the 63 are truly WoO. They race a lot of WoO but I would consider them "true outlaws." Also, I would consider Madsen in that group as well.. He runs a true outlaw schedule.

The 57 and 41 should be grouped ASCS regulars.

The Posse will claim the 83 but he does most of his racing in the Ohio/All Star area so I agee with putting him in that group.

 

Its good to see the field wasn't dominated by WoO. The locals had a great showing.

I have to think Steve would have won if his motor hadn't expired (but you can say that same type of thing about the other guys as well).


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lake_carl
August 16, 2010 at 11:06:29 AM
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hey interesting, now spend time and do chassis, and engines,,,,,,, I have often said my favorite nationals is the next one, but this year was sure good




kmossman
August 16, 2010 at 11:09:05 AM
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Dirthawk -- I've been to three WoO events this year, and followed a lot of their other stops. I think you nailed it.


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cubicdollars
August 16, 2010 at 11:14:45 AM
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Last time the Knoxville Nationals wasn't won by a full time Outlaw?

20 years ago.......Bobby Allen in 1990.

Any similarities in 2010?

PENNSYLVANIA

Kicking Outlaw ass for 30 years.....


 

 

 

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BigGMan
August 16, 2010 at 11:48:43 AM
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Thanks for the breakdown. Qualifying seemed to be really more a matter of luck this year than in the past. Can't believe it has been 20 years since a non-WOO driver won, but glad to see it happen. Also agree that Davey Heskin was the biggest suprise of the field, although Josh Schneiderman could also fit into that category. I'm a big Davey Heskin fan, although I don't get to see him race that often. He's had a ton of bad luck this year. It all came back for him this week. He may have made the A on qualifying night because three cars ahead of him in his heat tangled, but he earned his spot in the Sat. A. And he really earned his finish. Drove from 16th to 10th in the first 25, fell back to 15th early in the second 25 and drove back up to 8th.




gohotfoot
August 16, 2010 at 11:53:08 AM
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josh schnidermen and davey heskin would be equally the biggest suprise, worst underachiver Jason Meyers, but i guess he didnt really underachieve just kind of stepped on his D**k



checkered48
August 16, 2010 at 11:55:13 AM
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Posted By: Ben 31 on August 16 2010 at 11:03:48 AM

I'm not starting trouble but I have a bit of a different take on this...

I don't think the 1 and the 63 are truly WoO. They race a lot of WoO but I would consider them "true outlaws." Also, I would consider Madsen in that group as well.. He runs a true outlaw schedule.

The 57 and 41 should be grouped ASCS regulars.

The Posse will claim the 83 but he does most of his racing in the Ohio/All Star area so I agee with putting him in that group.

 

Its good to see the field wasn't dominated by WoO. The locals had a great showing.

I have to think Steve would have won if his motor hadn't expired (but you can say that same type of thing about the other guys as well).



I'm prettty sure the 63 of Kemenah has run the entire WoO schedule to this point. The 50th was represensted from all regions and sanctions.



midwestfan
August 16, 2010 at 12:00:04 PM
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I would have to agree with checkered48. Kemenah is running the full Outlaw schedule. So I think that makes him an "Outlaw".




duffyjr73
August 16, 2010 at 12:10:39 PM
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Kemenah has not raced ANYTHING BUT WoO THIS YEAR... geez.

ASCS 47 and 41



filtalr
August 16, 2010 at 12:11:27 PM
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I am typing this slowly so Cubic can read it .... Schaffer is not a posse member according to Allan Holland, Kevin Eckert and Tim himself - I'd say that pretty much sums it up with authority. He "is" from "Western PA" but the car and his racing are based in Ohio - not PA ... nice try posse fans but ... try again ... wink


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origopnwhlr
August 16, 2010 at 12:18:34 PM
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WORST LUCK.........SLAMMY! Frown

WISH THEY HADDA,,,,,,,,ALLARD Smile

OVERRATED.....CUBIC Wink


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Dirthawk
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August 16, 2010 at 12:19:15 PM
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He didn't say Shaffer is Posse, he just stated he is from Pennsylvania...which is true.



dsc1600
August 16, 2010 at 12:45:42 PM
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63 has attended every WoO race. Sammy is more Outlaw than anything else. I think Dirthawk's analysis is fair.

Ben 31
August 16, 2010 at 01:00:37 PM
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I thought Kemenah picked up the tour late. Sorry, my bad. Moving on...


"If you're gonna run the bottom, you might as well get 
a real job."


msu12
August 16, 2010 at 01:04:18 PM
Joined: 07/31/2005
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20 years ago.......

Lol... which is it cubes: PA been kicking Outlaw a*s for 30 years OR was this PA's first Nationals win in 20 years?



Lefty Wilbury
August 16, 2010 at 03:57:31 PM
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Erin Crocker has been a Knoxville regular this year. Great job finding her way to the A after a tough time this season. That girl can drive, 2 National A mains is not a fluke.

Also just like to point out that Madsen and Dollansky were both Knoxville regulars for many years. We're proud of all our past and present regulars.



Scoop
August 16, 2010 at 07:29:51 PM
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Posted By: Ben 31 on August 16 2010 at 11:03:48 AM

I'm not starting trouble but I have a bit of a different take on this...

I don't think the 1 and the 63 are truly WoO. They race a lot of WoO but I would consider them "true outlaws." Also, I would consider Madsen in that group as well.. He runs a true outlaw schedule.

The 57 and 41 should be grouped ASCS regulars.

The Posse will claim the 83 but he does most of his racing in the Ohio/All Star area so I agee with putting him in that group.

 

Its good to see the field wasn't dominated by WoO. The locals had a great showing.

I have to think Steve would have won if his motor hadn't expired (but you can say that same type of thing about the other guys as well).



FYI - the ASCS is NOT a 410 division, therefore, the 57 & 41 were not running in ASCS cars.


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Twenty8
August 16, 2010 at 07:56:03 PM
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Posted By: Lefty Wilbury on August 16 2010 at 03:57:31 PM

Erin Crocker has been a Knoxville regular this year. Great job finding her way to the A after a tough time this season. That girl can drive, 2 National A mains is not a fluke.

Also just like to point out that Madsen and Dollansky were both Knoxville regulars for many years. We're proud of all our past and present regulars.



"finding her way to the A" is a perfect statement. I dont think she passed more than a car or two either night. Just didnt wreck out and inherited many positions.



pitguy14
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August 16, 2010 at 08:29:15 PM
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Good for Erin to make the A after really not being very good at all at Knoxville. Funny you get rid of one crew chief and insert another and you start running well. If you didn't know any better after the Saturday night B, you would have thought Schniderman WON the nationals he crew was so happy. That's really awesome after the year the family has had with father Bart battling (and beating) Cancer. Heskin was the surprise of the Nationals (besides Tim winning it). He has had rotten luck all season at Knoxville and to finish eighth in the main was amazing.






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