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April 07, 2010 at
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Which magazine is better????
I'd rather be in Knoxville.
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April 07, 2010 at
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Its a toss up really, I lean towards Sprint car & midget. Its full color and i think the articles and pictures are a little better. But you can't go wrong with either one. ( i subscribe to them both)
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April 07, 2010 at
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Posted By: dollansky_7_fan on April 07 2010 at 10:37:46 PM
Its a toss up really, I lean towards Sprint car & midget. Its full color and i think the articles and pictures are a little better. But you can't go wrong with either one. ( i subscribe to them both)
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I do the same I get both 
Brian
"TURN AROUND; MATE !"
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April 08, 2010 at
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Kevin Olson's article on Driver Development in this month's SC&M is worth the full year subscription alone. He is one crazy dude.
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April 08, 2010 at
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I also get both and enjoy reading each issue. With newspapers and racing periodicals shutting down at a record pace, I try and suport each. I just wish Flatout would go monthly, but understand with the economy it would be hard to increase enough advertising to justify such a move.
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April 08, 2010 at
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seems material to cover is a bit slow at times? I thought Flattout was a little more technical for the weekend warrior , but, both seem to have thier qualities, I lean towards the "underground" not so "fame" type articals in regards to racers and tech information, agreed Olsons articals are usually pretty entertaining , I too recieve both. I would proubly subscribe to a third if there was one, dont the Aussies have a compairable mag to the american versions?
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April 08, 2010 at
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I take both like both. But i like sprint and midget more. In a way they are two of the same thing. Great articles, interview, pictures etc. But for the money i like the way sprint and midget does it. I will most likely not renew my flatout. Just my two cent.
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April 08, 2010 at
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both are good reads , dont forget Speedsport news
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April 08, 2010 at
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Sprint Car and Midget here. Love what they produce and here in Arkansas I havent received 2 of them and they had them in the mail right away. I cant say anything for flat out cause I dont have it but thought about subscribing to that since it deals with sprint cars.
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April 08, 2010 at
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thanx for everything. sounds like sc&m is the favorite so i will probably end up going with them. again, thanx.
I'd rather be in Knoxville.
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April 09, 2010 at
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Posted By: Krysl56k on April 08 2010 at 09:59:38 PM
thanx for everything. sounds like sc&m is the favorite so i will probably end up going with them. again, thanx.
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Better get both. That way you won't miss articles by fantabulous writers such as myself. 
Seriously though, I also get both and love both.
I am lucky enough to work at one of the best tracks
anywhere.
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April 09, 2010 at
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Kevin Eckert is doing some work for Flatout (again), which would be a good reason in itself to subscribe to Flatout. Justin Zoch is a talented writer, and nice guy to boot... another reason to like Flatout. I get both however, and enjoy both...
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April 09, 2010 at
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Posted By: develand on April 08 2010 at 08:31:23 AM
Kevin Olson's article on Driver Development in this month's SC&M is worth the full year subscription alone. He is one crazy dude.
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Hilarious article! Yet, there is a lot of truth in it.
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April 09, 2010 at
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I enjoy both magazines, but don't subscribe to either. I like reading Kevin Olson and should get off my a$$ and subscribe to both in support of sprint cars.
"Ralphie, Senor, muchas gracias por una mas cerveza" -
Scott Daloisio @ the PAS
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April 09, 2010 at
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April 09, 2010 at
11:24:26 AM by justinzoch
Hey Chilly...
Yah, you're right, Eckert is back in the pages of FlatOut and we're very proud to have him. Just putting the finishing touches on the next issue next week (Hall of Fame issue) and I know you're only saying those nice things because of those sweet dishes (or was it towels? candlesticks?) we sent for your wedding last October.
Personally, I'd encourage fans to subscribe to both mags - make a great gift for Mother's or Father's Day.
FlatOut Magazine - www.threewidemedia.com
Sprint Car and Midget Magazine - www.sprintcarandmidget.com
All good things,
Justin Zoch
FlatOut Magazine
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April 09, 2010 at
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You're right... if not for those kick-ass dishes we got from you guys, I'd be calling you a bum and throwing Flatout under the bus! haha
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April 09, 2010 at
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Well I run the bean bag tournament every year at the Chili Bowl. We donate a nice chunk of change to a charity or a hurt driver every year. When I went up to the guys at Sprint Car and Midget I asked for a free subscription to give away or something else small and they wouldn't even give me a second. Just a big flat no. I tried the next year thinking maybe it was just who I talked to and got the same attitude and response. Justin Zoch is calling me before the Chili Bowl wanting to know where to meet up so he can give me a couple of free subscriptions for the tourney. Makes you think. Who gives back? Just my two cents.
Also, I love reading Flat Out with all of their tech stuff and how they highlight big and not so big names. Justin Zoch always has a funny twist on stories. Glad to see Kev back with them too. Travis Branch photography is always stellar. Again, just my opinion...
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April 10, 2010 at
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Posted By: Julesracefan on April 09 2010 at 08:11:22 PM
Well I run the bean bag tournament every year at the Chili Bowl. We donate a nice chunk of change to a charity or a hurt driver every year. When I went up to the guys at Sprint Car and Midget I asked for a free subscription to give away or something else small and they wouldn't even give me a second. Just a big flat no. I tried the next year thinking maybe it was just who I talked to and got the same attitude and response. Justin Zoch is calling me before the Chili Bowl wanting to know where to meet up so he can give me a couple of free subscriptions for the tourney. Makes you think. Who gives back? Just my two cents.
Also, I love reading Flat Out with all of their tech stuff and how they highlight big and not so big names. Justin Zoch always has a funny twist on stories. Glad to see Kev back with them too. Travis Branch photography is always stellar. Again, just my opinion...
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A little harsh there aren't you Jules? First off the SC&M booth at the Chili Bowl has been staffed by a teenage girl the past 4 or 5 years, so "the guys at Sprint Car & Midget" doesn't hold much water. Sprint Car & Midget magazine gives back in a huge way, providing free exclusive printed material similar to the format of the magazine (but geared toward the stay in school theme) to any team to do Stay In School presentations which are very well received and a very serious commitment to community involvement. The magazine’s Stay In School program has been in place for several years now, much like the magazine and my guess is there have been hundreds of Stay In School presentations made, including my own. Those same Stay In School presentations coupled with a race car and driver doing the presentation, creates an excitement in the student body, and I would like to think that more than a few new fans has been created as well. There may have even been new crew members, a press member or PR rep or a new driver created that were encouraged and inspired by the Stay In School message. I remember reading in the magazine that some race team benefited from the Stay In School program by including it in their proposals and getting sponsorship because of their presentations to school kids. I did not get a sponsorship out of my presentation, but remember the excitement that was obvious in the kids expressions, and having their attention and a very captive audience was very empowering, enabling me to reach out to the kids and provide the Stay In School message. Just because you were turned down for your request does not give you the right to cast the magazine as bad guys, because in the big picture of things they are doing work behind the scenes that involves the community and they do give back in a huge way with the Stay In School program.
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April 10, 2010 at
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Joel,
I'm not saying that don't give back. Just when I asked both times (to a high ranking person within the organization) I wasn't even listened to. We've been doing the bean bag tourney for about 10 years now. It's not like it's anything new. They are the only ones that ever turn us down and twice at that. Just saying...
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April 10, 2010 at
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Joel,
I'm not saying that don't give back. Just when I asked both times (to a high ranking person within the organization) I wasn't even listened to. We've been doing the bean bag tourney for about 10 years now. It's not like it's anything new. They are the only ones that ever turn us down and twice at that. Just saying...
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I'll go with Jules on this one. In my two previous meetings with the high ranking person at SC & M, I was less than impressed with an arrogant attitude and a condescending mannerism. Not even in the same league as Justin Zoch, who is a very polite, educated and a genuine person.
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