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March 08, 2010 at
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Whats up with Carl Edwards? He really made an ass out of himself this weekend at Atlanta. It was the Carl Edwards VS Brad Keselowski show. On a restart ofter one of the early cautions they went into the turn and Brad was on bottom and Carl was in the middle. Well Carl decides he is gonna come down but Brads nose was in there. When Carl came down he hit Brad and sent himself up the track and collected Joey Lagono in the process. When Carl gets back to the garage they interviewed him and at first he was blaming Brad and that he never gives him any room but after they showed him the replay he saw that Brad clearly hit the brake so he could come down there. Well Carl gets back on the track over 100 laps down. Well he meets up with Brad and they was going into a turn and Carl tried to take him out but instead Carl just pushed up the track. Oh and by the way Carl was running over 100 laps down and Brad was running either 5th or 6th and was fast. Anyway with 5 to go They come out of turn for and running down the front-stretch and Carl pulls his bumper to the inside of Brads rear quarter pannel and turns right. When they showed the replay he turned it hard right. Well Brad hits the wall and starts flying in the air upside down along the fence. So after looking at everything that happened that day and the replays NASCAR decided to park the 99 car and he had to report to the NASCAR trailer. I guess we will find out what they are gonna do Tuesday but all I know is he is in big trouble.
First of all I like Carl ok and I can't stand Brad but this is crazy. Here is the deal, first of all Carl had already admitted that what went on earlier was basically his fault(which is a lot) and then you do that crap. I'm all about gettin even but not going 180-190mph ont the front-stretch at Atlanta. You take care of that at smaller tracks. Carl said that he didn't want that to happen and he didn't think that it would have turned out like that but it din;t matter it still should not have happened. Oh and when He pulled off to go to the garage he turned and went the wrong way on pit road under the caution. They had problems last year at Talladega when Carl and Brad was going for the win and Carl drove down and Brad held his line so he didn't go below the yellow line and Carl took that crazy ride along the fence. As much as I would love to say that all them things that happened was Brads fault, well I cant cause they wasn't. Carl always acts like he is the good guy but in the end he is really an ass. He isn't my favourite driver by no means but I liked him but I don't know. Not using this to bash Carl but it's the point.
Get back at the guy but not at going over 180mph. I would like to here what yall think.
Corey "Joker" Allison
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March 08, 2010 at
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Good and different post Cory, breaks the routine of the other topics going on.
Hey, NASCAR said police it yourselves and Carl did just that. I probably would have done the same thing but when I would have saw him flip like he did go "oops, didn't think about that." I bet he has no regrets doing what he did but I bet he does regret the outcome. Very interesting to see what NASCAR does about this one. We already know what they would have done to Big "E", nothing.
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March 08, 2010 at
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I would never do it. I have seen some scary stuff that might possibly result from this precedent if it is allowed to stand. I may be a bit biased, though. One time somebody came across the infield of an undisclosed track at an undisclosed year, at full song, full speed, trying to take me out. He missed, of course, but it did put it into perspective. Using a car as a weapon is NEVER cool.
I was shouting for NASCAR to sit Junior down at last year's Daytona 500 and suspend him, and he is one of my drivers, so you cannot accuse me of sticking up for Keslowski. What Carl Edwards did deserves no accolades. It was childish and quite frankly, hypocritical. I ran out of fingers counting the number of times Carl Edwards has done something stupid to cause a wreck, and that is just the memorable moments. That is not to defend Keslowski. There are so many levels of bad that can be used to describe him. But as momma always said, two wrongs don't make a right.
I think that he has some talent, but somebody needs to just sit him down in the garage area and put the fear of God into him IN THE CONFINES OF THE GARAGE AREA OR SOMEWHERE SANS RUNNING CARS. Has anybody sat down and told him how it is, or have they just engaged in exchanging jabs from TV? I think that the latter is what has happened, and that solves nothing. I think THAT is one of the negatives that TV has made to the sport of racing, the creation of festering disputes between drivers that should be solved by a man-to-man talk. Not only that, but the TV commentators tend to egg on the drivers until there is no way that the differences can be resolved.
In fact, Carl Edwards had this option, actually he had three options (or more). He could have waited until after the races to confront him and perhaps put the fear of God into Keslowski, he could have waited until two weeks from now at Bristol, or he could have done what he did. What he did was turn a car into an unpredictable projectile that could have hurt or killed Keslowski or others. What would happen if the car had gotten into the grandstand, think of how many people could have been killed? If he had waited until going to some place like Bristol or Martinsville or Richmond, then he could have gotten his message across without putting people in danger. A perhaps fourth option that i have thought of is perhaps expressing displeasure with another by running over another person's fenders under caution. All of these don't cause unnecessary danger.
What he did was stupid and reckless with clear disregard to the safety of other drivers and fans. I don't give a shit what his reaction to the severity is. It does not absolve him of his wrongdoing. It wasn't what he intended his act to cause, but the fact that he intended to act that makes him guilty. That he cavalierly admitted that he intended to wreck him, does not help his case. IF I were running the series, the decision to suspend Edwards would be easy. I would loosen the rules on fighting, if that is what is needed, but this taking care of business on the racetrack is going to get somebody killed unnecessarily and must be stopped.
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March 09, 2010 at
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You guys are nothing but a bunch of cry babies. If I was Carl I would have done the same thing. Brad has crashed and tore up more equipment in his short stint with NASCAR than anyone. If he ain't got the balls to take what he deserves after making the statement I'll knock anyone out of the way to win then he better find another job.
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March 09, 2010 at
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Announced this morning----No suspension for Carl Edwards
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March 09, 2010 at
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Posted By: Secretary on March 09 2010 at 09:26:36 AM
You guys are nothing but a bunch of cry babies. If I was Carl I would have done the same thing. Brad has crashed and tore up more equipment in his short stint with NASCAR than anyone. If he ain't got the balls to take what he deserves after making the statement I'll knock anyone out of the way to win then he better find another job.
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I don't blame him a bit for getting back at Brad. The problem I have is he did it going over 180mph. He could have got someone killed and it could have been a fan but I guess that dont matter either does it.
Corey "Joker" Allison
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March 09, 2010 at
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March 09, 2010 at
04:24:02 PM by Glen Chapa
yes, but remember last year brad had a choice wreck carl or run second, brad went for the win carl went roof first into wall..I know some will say not the same racing for the win, but as a driver you have a choice in that position, run second or hold my line do some rubbin maybe turn this guy and win at dega.. Carl had the same choice..
And also last year Hamlin said on national tv he was dumping Brad, only thing that was different was in this case Brad's car got upside down, if ya look at replay, Carl had set it up for perfect spin, most of the of the time the car getting spun would have just backed into the safer wall and the were very close to the wall at that point..
I dont blame Carl, those guys have history, Carl felt that he was wronged, wanted to let brad now, just for whatever reason (Newman has a good reason, says the wing when turned around creates lift, NASCAR says no, but thinkin Newman is 2, nascar 0) car lifted up not what Carl wanted..
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March 09, 2010 at
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Made for some good TV. Most fans watch or go to the races for the crashes. Glad no one got hurt.
JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234
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March 09, 2010 at
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Posted By: dirtrack234 on March 09 2010 at 06:08:59 PM
Made for some good TV. Most fans watch or go to the races for the crashes. Glad no one got hurt.
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Sorry, but every COT that's gotten turned at very high speed has gone airborne, including Edwards at 'Dega, and he knew, or should have known, exactly what was going to happen. He didn't care. Somebody jacked him up while he was in the garage, and he went out to get BK. NASCAR thinks this will sell tickets, and they're probably right.....what do you suppose the tease for Bristol will center on? Maybe they should do a little pre-race presentation where Edwards is handed competition license number 007. This ain't racing, this is more WWF crap. Take it out behind the garage where nobody else gets hurt, you jerks.
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March 10, 2010 at
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Posted By: Galen on March 09 2010 at 08:44:37 PM
Sorry, but every COT that's gotten turned at very high speed has gone airborne, including Edwards at 'Dega, and he knew, or should have known, exactly what was going to happen. He didn't care. Somebody jacked him up while he was in the garage, and he went out to get BK. NASCAR thinks this will sell tickets, and they're probably right.....what do you suppose the tease for Bristol will center on? Maybe they should do a little pre-race presentation where Edwards is handed competition license number 007. This ain't racing, this is more WWF crap. Take it out behind the garage where nobody else gets hurt, you jerks.
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Aslong as they put the fight behind the garage on TV It would raise there rating.
JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234
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March 10, 2010 at
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Posted By: Glen Chapa on March 09 2010 at 04:22:55 PM
yes, but remember last year brad had a choice wreck carl or run second, brad went for the win carl went roof first into wall..I know some will say not the same racing for the win, but as a driver you have a choice in that position, run second or hold my line do some rubbin maybe turn this guy and win at dega.. Carl had the same choice..
And also last year Hamlin said on national tv he was dumping Brad, only thing that was different was in this case Brad's car got upside down, if ya look at replay, Carl had set it up for perfect spin, most of the of the time the car getting spun would have just backed into the safer wall and the were very close to the wall at that point..
I dont blame Carl, those guys have history, Carl felt that he was wronged, wanted to let brad now, just for whatever reason (Newman has a good reason, says the wing when turned around creates lift, NASCAR says no, but thinkin Newman is 2, nascar 0) car lifted up not what Carl wanted..
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Keselowski has a lot of guys teed off and I am not defending him, but to say he wrecked Edwards last year at Talladega is flat out wrong. That was Edwards' fault all the way -- he turned down into Keselowski while blocking him -- and I don't remember anyone after the race saying anything to the contrary. It wasn't even a rubbing deal. Edwards may have had other issues with Keselowski, and a payback may have been due for something else, but he picked the wrong time and place. He was 100 laps behind and they were at Atlanta.
Larry McReynolds on the Talladega crash, "I did not see Brad Keselowski do anything wrong." Here's the video -- watch all the replays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FsYDEIZWk
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