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Have you made a choice on how we are going to do it this year? It would be cool if we could do a few classes of cars, ASCS,OCRS,ASCS2,a modified class ect, rather than just at one track. To me that would be fun, confusing as hell but fun. I am sure others would help out I would.

Just my 2 cents.....

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

I guess Cody is busy with some Greasy French Fries or the Chauffeur lmao..... Just let me know what your plan is, crunch time is here...

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

man Randy I just typed up a response - but its way too long. and you know its lengthy when I'm saying it is lol. I got a b-day party to attend midday tomorrow and need to turn it in. I'll give you a holler tomorrow and also type up a shorter one tomorrow to properly address things.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Thats some funny stuff.... We can live with that LOL

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

Tomorrow has done come and gone, we are no further than we were. Did the Greasy French Fries make ya sick ????? LMAO!!!!!!

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

lol. naw man we ended up running around all day and night.

As I had stated before in correspondence - there is no easy answer to the original question. I will avoid going into some of the lengthy specifics. I would like to say thank you to all those who have supported the Fantasy League in the last 2 years. And whereas there looks to be no racing at SFS in the 2010 season - there will be a fantasy league. But it likely won't start before May. There are many reasons for this, but the one that matters most is the amount of uncertainty in the weekly dirt track racing in this state.

There have been many ideas that have peaked my interest. But please do trust there are many more details and things to take into consideration than it seems on the surface. Of course we could just throw a league out there, but I sincerely believe (and hope others do agree) that it is best to see the start of the season and how things shape up. Quality is of the upmost importance. I cannot expect support for a league if the quality of it is not there - and part of that is the quality of the show the League could be associated with.

I have enjoyed running the Fantasy League and look forwards to doing so again this year. But I will be cautious in what I put together.

It had been thought of - having a fantasy league that covers more than 1 track. In theory I really do like the idea. But I would like to note that to employ the best format (head to head) - it would require us picking all the classes for any individual show. For instance, if it was an ASCS Sooner show at Creek - we would be picking the support/weekly divisions for the show as well. I mention this because a possibility is to do a league that is a mixed bag of sorts. By all rights, after losing SFS we all may be/should be getting out to other tracks much more. So to search a little bit of info on tracks before possibly picking them could be a cool thing (a necessary one if we go this route). But before I spend the very extensive amount of time required to really take another step with this idea - I would like to see how much support would be had with it. I can't say with 100% certainty every show/track we would be picking. But of course OCRS and ASCS shows would be involved. As well as some weekly shows in the area. And of course - the schedule of such an endeavor would be posted well in advance (and probably subject to change as well). My only worry is that folks would like picking for their closest track - but then not other shows. That would create the scenario of broken matchups much like what we had to deal with last year. By any and all measures - broken matchups must be avoided.

As nothing has been decided on as of yet - any respectful feedback and suggestions would be welcome and appreciated. This league began at State Fair Speedway - but just because SFS is not running in the foreseeable future does not mean we will not have a fantasy league. But considering many things, not the least of which is the time involved on my end of properly maintaining a quality fantasy league, I will be sure to put together the best and most fun Fantasy League I possibly can.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

I don't understand why we could not do just ascs, ocrs,ncra ect. and not do the support classes at the tracks special classes run at that night. Maybe I need some more schooling on this subject like you have said before I am old don't ya know LOL.....

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

naw its cool to question that.

The reason that is difficult is because of the head-to-head format. You definitely want to be picking more than 1 class for a show. Granted, on the surface it seems you could pick more than 1 in a particular show - but that presents issues in its own right. By picking upwards of 4 classes or more - you decrease the chance for ties.

If there is just 1 or 2 picks - there's a really good chance of having ties. As well as that just not being as interesting as 4-5 picks. Another thing to consider my friend - I just read where gas is projected to get upwards of $3.50 this summer. Now we are all smart enough to where not only that is really hard on traveling series - but just as well - they have been very wrong about these things before. Would it really suprise any of us if it got worse than that? ANd on that note - just look at what the dog days of summer did to the SFS weekly show (especially in the past few years). Car counts would go down a good 25-40%. And that was just a weekly show. There have been ASCS/OCRS races that have struggled to get more than 3 weak heats and a 16 car feature. Not saying that in absolutes, but I'm sure you follow. There were several times classes at SFS had that - but we were picking more than 1 class - thus in a head-to-head matchup - we lost absolutely nothing by having that as opposed to 4 strong heats, a B main, and a full A Main. This could sound like its going a bit far - but if we got into July/August and was picking some series race that only had 12 cars - and was just picking that race..........thats not quality.

And as long as I can help but, as long as I am commish of the Fantasy League - I would try to eliminate such variables. Of course I cannot eliminate them all - but for the ones that are foreseeable.....

I still like the idea though. Just dont see how we could not pick the local classes as well. Just picking one class in a sport that has wildly varying fields of quality - just doesn't seem the best way to go. And yeah at the same time - picking local classes of tracks many dont go attend could present issues in its own right. But I would rather go that route and have less players than just go the easy route (pick one class) and have more. There is something to be said for competitive quality. I would even venture to say that just picking 1 class might mean more participants at the start - but possibly much less by the end of the season. Its just not that fun picking one class. I think picking the local divisions would have much more quality and credibility. I think it could be really interesting. Because some players could know much more about one track then another. Thus having the same occasional advantage as disadvantage if you catch my drift. By all rights - we all should be paying at least some attention to what goes on at other weekly tracks. And if we haven't up to this point - I think recent events definitely support the notion that in the future we should.

Finally, there were a lot of advantages to having a League for SFS. We all reasonably knew who would be there and how many - at least to some degree. What do we really know right now about Lawton, Meeker, OCRS, or ASCS? Not much at all. Thats where I am inclined to see what the start of the season reveals - then just go the best path from there. I will say its difficult to even consider Meeker at all because timely results are not posted from there (or have not been in the past). I don't mean to be critical - but its an obvious issue if running a fantasy league dependent on those posted results. And who knows - maybe that will be different this year. There same problem does not exist with Lawton, as much of the time they post it same night, sometimes early next day - and even aside from that - half the Fantasy Section are regulars down there anyway. And they have practically ran this league as much as I have at times. But at this point if we were to have a weekly league - I would be inclined to do it at Lawton. I know that could possibly end up not being the most popular choice - but as you see there are several different things to look at.

just thoughts. I appreciate the feedback tho Randy The ultimate answer to your question is in keeping with a head-to-head format - which as me and others have spent a great deal of time hashing out - is the best format to have. Could it be tweaked and other things be possible? of course. But some things just have a better competitive edge than others - I/we just have to find the best course.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

by the way you aint that old dude lol.

I mean the older I get the smarter I get (so I would like to think lol) so most of you dudes on here are doin' pretty good! lol.

Even if that aint true - hell we all need to believe it nonetheless lol - aint no one gettin any younger thats for sure. lol.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

I get your point but I was thinking on the line of not just one class but maybe 4 classes, ASCS Sooner, OCRS, NCRA Mods. and one more sancantion class. That way they are good with posting results in a timley manner. My thinking was you would pick 4 or so different classes at different tracks every weekend. Damn wouldn't that be a hoot and you being the commish of the Fantasy League you could ger-done...

But the bottom line is we will do it your way Mr. Commish... And have just as much fun keeping you keeping us confused as always. HE-HE....

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

Ok Cody, Will this help you Concentrate any better?.....

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

how bout picking a track somewhere that nobody is familiar with....like one of the PA tracks or CA???

"its useless to put on the brakes when you are upside 
down"   -Paul Newman

OCRS averaged 28 cars per show last year....i dont know what sfs had but i bet they were close.....as for 4 strong heat races, other than the chili bowl and the big west coast usac races i think 4 strong heat races is a thing of the past.....

"its useless to put on the brakes when you are upside 
down"   -Paul Newman

Enid would be the answer to that. You never know if anyone is going to show up at all!

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.