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What is up with the grove board? why is it down again?

Long Live  20 Time  World Of Outlaws Champion Steve 
Kinser #11 

Working fine for me.

it is working - but not if you are going there from a saved link.

enter from www.williamsgrove.com

and save the new URL

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Don't you mean the Grove Bored? Been dull since they booted me, lol. One view works for all or toe the company line or reality and stats not wanted says it best. Had much fun there but the whiners won again, c'est la vie. Take It Easy....

Legends come ..... Legends go ....

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stats?...you mean like these? - now get back in your hole!

Williams Grove - Posse / WoO Winners

Sep 24 1978 - Kramer Williamson - Apple House #41
Jul 27 1979 - Lynn Paxton
May 16 1980 - Sammy Swindell - Jeffrey #91
Jul 25 1980 - Bill Stief - Lloyd #461
Jul 26 1980 - Ketih Kauffman - Weikert #29
Jun 5 1981 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11
Jun 12 1981 - Steve Kinser - Kinser Bros #11
May 13 1982 - Sammy Swindell - Nance #1N
May 14 1982 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1a
May 21 1982 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1a
May 26 1983 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Weikert #29
May 27 1983 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Weikert #29
Aug 4 1983 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Aug 5 1983 -Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1
May 24 1984 -Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 25 1984 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Aug 1 1984 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1
Aug 2 1984 - Brad Doty - Stanton 75
Aug 3 1984 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 24 1985 - Keith Kauffman - Hamilton #77
May 31 1985 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Aug 1 1985 - Sammy Swindell - Beadle #1
Aug 2 1985 - Doug Wolfgang - Weikert #29
May 22 1986 - Doug Wolfgang - Weikert #29
May 23 1986 - Doug Wolfgang - Weikert #29
May 30 1986 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1a
Jul 31 1986 - Jac Haudenschild - Saucier #1ST
Aug 1 1986 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1a
May 22 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 29 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Jul 30 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Jul 31 1987 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 26 1988 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Luna #10
May 27 1988 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Luna #10
June 3 1988 - Mark Kinser - Reid #6r
July 28 1988 - Chris Eash - Eash #17e
July 29 1988 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 25 1989 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1a
May 26 1989 -Sammy Swindell - Annett #1
Jun 2 1989 - Bobby Allen - Allen #1a
Jul 27 1989 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Luna #10
Jul 28 1989 - Bobby Davis, Jr. - Luna #10
Sep 29 1989 - Stevie Smith - Hamilton #77
Sep 30 1989 - Stevie Smith - Hamilton #77
May 24 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 25 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Jun 1 1990 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1
Aug 2 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Aug 3 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Sep 28 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Sep 29 1990 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 24 1991 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 31 1991 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1
Aug 1 1991 -Mark Kinser - Williams #5m
Aug 2 1991 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Oct 5 1991 - Sammy Swindell - Annett #1
Oct 6 1991 - Stevie Smith - Hamilton #77
May 21 1992 - Mark Kinser - Williams #5M
May 22 1992 - Donnie Kreitz, Jr - Kreitz #69K
May 29 1992 - Donnie Kreitz, Jr - Kreitz #69K
Jul 30 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Jul 31 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Oct 2 1992 - Keith Kauffman - Wintermyer #1W
Oct 3 1992 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 27 1993 - Dave Blaney - Luna #10
May 28 1993 - Don Kreitz, Jr. - Knelt #69k
Jun 4 1993 - Dave Blaney - Luna #10
Aug 5 1993 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Oct 1 1993 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Oct 3 1993 - Don Kreitz, Jr. - Kreitz 69
May 26 1994 - Dave Blaney - Luna #10
May 27 1994 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Jun 3 1994 - Andy Hillenburg - Hillenburg #2
Aug 4 1994 - Sammy Swindell - Gilliam #1
Aug 5 1994 - Sammy Swindell - Gilliam #1
Sep 30 1994 - Lance Dewease - Dyer #461
Oct 1 1994 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
May 26 1995 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Aug 3 1995 - Dave Blaney - Luna #10
Aug 4 1995 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m
Sep 29 1995 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m
Sep 30 1995 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m
May 24 1996 - Johnny Herrera - Sonner #47
May 25 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
May 31 1996 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Aug 1 1996 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Aug 2 1996 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
Oct 4 1996 - Lance Dewease - Dyer #461
Oct 5 1996 - Lance Dewease - Dyer #461
May 22 1997 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1
May 23 1997 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m
May 30 1997 - Jac Haudenschild - Elden #22
Jul 31 1997 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m
Aug 1 1997 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5m
Oct 3 1997 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1
Oct 4 1997 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1
May 21 1998 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
May 22 1998 - Johnny Herrera - Sonner #47
May 29 1998 - Stevie Smith - Smith #19
Jul 30 1998 - Cancelled, rain
Jul 31 1998 - Kevin Gobrecht - Zemaitis #1Z
Oct 2 1998 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
Oct 3 1998 - Cancelled, rain
May 27 1999 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
May 28 1999 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Jul 29 1999 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
Jul 30 1999 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
Oct 1 1999 - Cris Eash - E&G Classics #17E
Oct 2 1999 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
May 18 2000 - Mark Kinser - Kinser #5M
May 19 2000 - Fred Rahmer - Hamilton #77
Jul 27 2000 - Lance Dewease - Harz #88H
Jul 29 2000 - Sammy Swindell - Swindell #1
Sep 29 2000 - Steve Kinser - Kinser #11
Sep 30 2000 - Donny Schatz - Schatz #15
May 18 2001 - Donny Schatz - Schatz #15
Jul 26 2001 - Donny Schatz - Schatz #15
Jul 27 2001 - Don Kreitz, Jr - Kreitz #69
Sep 28 2001 - Tim Shaffer - Helm #11H
Sep 29 2001 - Lance Dewease - Harz #88H
May 16 2002 – Steve Kinser – Kinser #11
Sep 27 2002 – Lance Dewease – Hamilton #77
Jul 24 2003 – Don Kreitz Jr. – Kreitz #69k
Jul 25 2003 – Donny Schatz –Schatz #15
Oct 3 2003 – Donny Schatz – Schatz #15
Oct 4 2003 – Steve Kinser – Kinser #11
May 27 2004 – Fred Rahmer – Hartz #88H
May 28 2004 – Don Kreitz Jr. – Kreitz #69k
Jul 23 2004 – Lance Dewease – Hamilton #77
Jul 24 2004 – Danny Lasoski – Stewart #20
Oct 1 2004 – Mark Smith – Zemco #1Z
Oct 2 2004 – Donny Schatz – Schatz #15
May 26 2005 – Craig Dollansky – Karavan #7
May 27 2005 – Steve Kinser – Kinser #11
Jul 21 2005 – Jason Johnson – Klien #22
Jul 22 2005 – Paul McMahan – Helm #11H
Jul 23 2005 – Fred Rahmer – Hartz #88H
Sep 30 2005 – Fred Rahmer – Hartz #88H
Oct 1 2005 – Donny Schatz – Schatz #15
May 26 2006 Fred Rahmer – Klien #22
May 27 2006 Fred Rahmer– Klien #22
Jul 20 2006 Terry McCarl - #24
Jul 21 2006 Craig Dollansky - #7
Jul 22 2006 Daryn Pittman - #21
Sep 29 2006 Jason Solwold - #r19
Sep 30 2006 Doug Esh - Leach #30 (National Open)
May 17 2007 Donny Schatz – Schatz #15
May 18 2007 Donny Schatz – Schatz #15
Jul 19 2007 Donny Schatz – Schatz #15
Jul 20 2007 Brian Leppo - Swope #71
Sep 28 2007 Chad Layton - Postupack #25
Sep 29 2007 Donny Schatz – Schatz #15 (National Open)
May 15 2008 Steve Kinser – Kinser #11

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

LOL, now put up Grandview's, Lincoln's and Port's and throw in Lernerville, Jersey and the other's the Posse shows up for a pounding. One track wonder's, aka, the PA Posse. Take It Easy.....

since that is your argument - why don't YOU put them up...or how about shut up?

you got your ass handed to you in this thread when we replayed history for you a few weeks ago:

http://www.hoseheadforums.com/forum~pageNum_qGetThread~2~ThreadID~16793.htm

but like any stupid alzheimers groundhog on groundhog day - your sorry ass is back for another whippin!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Is Ellis the moderator?

"Just the facts ma'am", Sgt. Joe Friday, Detective, 
LAPD

I put them up in the last thread DUMBO, apparently you are the only one who didn't see them, lmao. Put down the pipe and pay attention for a change, sheesh. No wins at Grandview, none at Port and Lincoln over the years was almost as bad but you managed to have three or four single wins, Brian, Eash and Fred come to mind and even Eash may have been an Outlaw at the time, oops. But hey, theirs always Florida, the neutral ground zone that totally exposes the boys for what they aren't. Take It Easy....

PS Port and Grandview were the last decade or more, is that enough????

“People say that we can’t win away from Pennsylvania,” Dewease noted.

 
 
 
They don't even know how to spell sprint car 
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com

all i see are vague references to a race you might have attended on night with a bottle of blue porta-potty fluid. where are your STATS?

do you really want to review the patheitc STATS of PARTS UNKNOWN at THEIR HOME TRACKS in comparison?...how did the locals do last week? OOOOPPPPSSS!

get back to work and pour that guy an imported Coors Light!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

You two are gonna become "Buddies" again, I can see it.

...from the master Kevin Eckert at Open Wheel Times... http://www.openwheeltimes.com/

Nelligan's claim usurped by GasItUp!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

...only for my own entertainment...LOL

Huh, I went as far back as 1980 for Lincoln in my research and my point is assuredly proven, for Grandview it's even better at 13-0 and for Port there is a single win since 1980, job well done, lol? Heck, I remember being at Port for an Outlaw show that had two locals on the track when the checkers flew, sat in the Grandstand for that one, what a great night it was, lol. One track wonders and lapped traffic at most other spots, including the Porch, simply my point for the last 15 years and ya' can't spin it any other way, thank you! Take It Easy.....

PS Todd the 'Real 11' Shaffer admitted he had about 430 cubes the night he win but I still love it, if you're still confused ask some 5th grader for an explanation......

once again - selecting only RANGES of dates that support your foggy memory of these "great nights" you dredge up. see you at the KR if you are allowed to go!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

How about when Keith Kauffman ventured out to beat the Outlaws in POSSE cars at Hagerstown Maryland in 1983, Orange County New York in 1984, and KNOXVILLE, IA in 1983? All of those wins came in the Hamilton #77 when it was not considered an Outlaw ride. He did beat the majority of the Outlaws in the Race of States feature at the Knoxville Nationals in 1988 and that was in the Hardees #880, which again was a POSSE car. If I remember correctly, slammin' Sammy Swindell was second in that race.

Rahmer has won at Knoxville twice, Lernerville, and beat the big dogs on TV out in AZ back around 1993. Hodnett beat them twice at Lowes in the Apple 12, Dewease now has beaten them at the same joint, and Shepard beat them at Knoxville last year. Steve Smith Sr. beat them at Hagerstown and let's not forget Kreitz won the King's Royal.

All of those wins came in Posse cars and not at the Grove, Lincoln, Port, or Selinsgrove. Those include preliminaries as well because they are features too.

As for Florida, I know for a fact Kauffman has won SEVEN races there and he hasn't raced there since 1999 or 2000. Yes, those races weren't Outlaw sanctioned but the majority of the Outlaws were there regardless. Dewease, Rahmer, Pauch, Eash, Mackison Jr., Lotier, Shepard, Stambaugh, Smith Sr., Joey Allen, Wolfe, and Brian Jr. have all won races in Florida. That's all Posse!

...how 'bout that one time back in 1981 ol' Chachi Macho beat them Outlaws in Scooter McGillicutty's 76 Pinto at Hackenbush Speedway...wow, thems where the days...ain't nobody put a red ass on the Outlaws like ole' Chachi back in the day...shooo doggy that was the shits...git-r-done !