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Hey we all believe in the free enterprise system. Hoosier is just being aggresive in regards to marketing and dealing with all the different sanctioning bodies. This isn't anything new. The intentions are good, but all will have to wait and see if it has any merit. I personally would like to see all sanctioning bodies unite and run a hard compound, regardless of what is printed on the sidewall. Let em all run rocks and put the racing back in the hands of the drivers who can drive an ill handling beast. Just remember what goes around comes around.

Single tire rules are the first step in going back to harder/narrower tires. I want to see competition on the track, not the tire truck. Good move Knoxville!

Hey, the 360s at Knoxville were on a rock hard McCreary (D3B) for years and the fast guys still bought a new tire every night. Same thing for the American Racer BTC, bit softer but still, one supplier, fast guys still won. Don't give me the "unhooked puts the driver back in" business.Ya know how all the fast guys bitch when the track is tacky and "everybody's fast when it's tacky"? Think of the Nationals on a sticky Wednesday night, "fast" guys have a hard time making the transfer. Hooked up on sticky tires is like a tacky track, everybody is fast, shouldn't that make BETTER racing? Unhooking the cars just means the guys who don't worry if they tear something up will still run harder than the guy on a budget. And, the guy with talent will still go faster than the guy without. The extra speed of a hooked up car means you have to be that much more focused, looking that much farther ahead and being very precise with what you do. ALL sprint cars are tough to drive well, wing, non-wing, the problems are just a bit different. Hook 'em up and stand on the gas!

Thank You Mr. Weeks, well spoken from a racer/owner/crew chief perspective and a Knoxville guy. Take It Easy...

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I just like these types of comments with out any stats to back them up. Many of these tracks and organisations have never had point funds and now they do. As for promoters, these guys have to make some kind of money for their work, if not, they will go away. Some people just feel that they need to suck every penny they can from these promoters during good times, then blame them for lack of effort when times get lean.

25 posts about something you can't do a damn thing about anyway! Sheeez. They can run Bandag re-treads for I give a damn as long as on April 21st they are racing..... Over & Out....

Hey Larry good luck to you & Jeff for 2007.....Hope you bring home some W's

So whats your answer to make the racing better? Even Cappy says they need to avg 3000 fans a night for the weekly shows and last year they avg 2000. Crowds are going down and too many races are follow the leader. I've seen more rubber down 1 lane tracks at Knoxville the last 2 years than from 1989 to 2004 combined. Seems a hard tire rule put racing and passing back in the late model class. Or can you tell us, was it some other change that made the difference in late model racing? Brian Birkhofer won 5 $10,000 to win A mains on the same rt rear tire. I bet there were some rich teams that ran new tires against him every night too.

I've seen the best racing when the track is slick and the cars are not as hooked up as compared to tacky tracks.

I think the new tire rule is the FIRST step geared to bringing back some vitality to the local racing scene. Somehow, the leaders of the sport have to get a handle on the high costs of racing. I DON'T think rules will bring fans to the track and that's really the biggest issue facing sprint car tracks and groups today.

As for rules, I think you'll eventually see a left rear spec tire and a smaller wing. I think the tire compounds will also get harder. I'd be in favor of having harder tire compounds than they are using now and opeing up limitations on engine size. A sprint car should be a sprint car, not a 410 or 360 or 358 or 305 or whatever.

As for bringing fans to the track...you have to have affordable ticket prices, good fan amenities and a message that sprint car racing is the baddest form of racing on the planet. It doesn't need to be WWE...it's a sport that's already extreme and we need to focus on the racing.

I will say this...it would be a tough sell if weekly racing around the country only had 360's. I respect those guys who race 360's and the racing is pretty good, but in my discussions with promoters around the country, there is much doubt that it would sell.

Oswald, I don't have the answers to getting fans to come, takes promoting and I don't claim to be one of those. Seems like keeping the price down. letting kids in for next to nothing would help. I don't go to the grandstands so I don't know the prices, maybe they do those things already. The Sprint Invaders seem to get decent crowds at the little tracks we go to, what are they doing right? Maybe I, and other racers, should try to understand the rest of the game and help the promoters. 2000 fans at Knoxville? Seems light, I try to estimate the grandstands but really don't know if I'm close so I'll take their word for it. Getting rid of rubber down tracks would help the racing, seems to me that's a track prep thing. I don't understand how that process works, I'm not a farmer and know nothing about dirt so I wouldn't begin to tell the Duncans how to do that. I can't figure why on two nights that seem similar, one the track takes rubber, the other it doesn't. And Mikey, sorry about having a face for radio. It took a car accident and 2 incompetent surgeons to make me look like this, what's your excuse?

In the over the winter polls the Hoseheads responded to, not getting started ON TIME and not being finished by 10:00 PM seemed to be the 2 biggest reasons people did not come back.

Price ect came in way back in the distance.

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Duane, please remember that the people who respond to polls on here are not the mainstream fans that must be found for tracks to increase attendence. I do agree that starting on time and running a show in three to three and a half hours is important to getting people to come back multiple times.

Yikes Larry, sorry about that deal, I have birth as an excuse, pretty lame huh, lol. See you in a couple of weeks, all the best, Take It Easy...

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