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dirtraceorbust
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December 23, 2023 at 09:05:23 PM
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Was the USA series the most recent sprint car series that tried to break away from domination by WoO?  I think it was but my age/memory foggy and internet has almost zero info on it. .  If it was the USA series, and I remember right, that series actually took 3/4th of the top cars from the WoO.  Donny Schatz with his closeness to Ted Johnson was one of the few teams in the WoO that kept racing  with the WoO if my memory?? is correct.  Whatever series was the most recent to try the breakaway, I was surprised they didn't last because of this fact.  Of course, High Limit has a much much better chance of sticking around for a while, maybe a long while.  Worked well last year and 2024 is a bigger step up the ladder.  


Lawlessness + liberalism = HELL -  NYC, Detroit, Chicago, 
Seattle, LA  Who the H runs those cities. 


mcweld
December 23, 2023 at 09:33:18 PM
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No USA was like 1989. NST was the last one to try. Thinking it was 2006. Not sure what to think of this whole High Limit thing. 


Gary Allbuagh

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December 23, 2023 at 11:39:46 PM
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No USA was like 1989. NST was the last one to try. Thinking it was 2006. Not sure what to think of this whole High Limit thing. 



NST - aka National Steve Tour




linbob
December 24, 2023 at 01:22:25 AM
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Posted By: mcweld on December 23 2023 at 09:33:18 PM

No USA was like 1989. NST was the last one to try. Thinking it was 2006. Not sure what to think of this whole High Limit thing. 



I think the man that started the group was from Oregon.  He promoted a race track.  He had signed up alot of drivers.  He was accidentilly killed at the race track when hit by a stock car.  They never held a race.  This is how I remembered it.



SprintCarRace
December 24, 2023 at 07:35:38 AM
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NST was formed by Fred Brownfield who promoted Grays Harbor. He was upset that World Racing Group ( CEO Paul Kruger ) gave Skagit a World of Outlaw race. The series ran for one year I think it was 2006. He was killed working as an on track official lining up a race at Grays Harbor. Fred is a NSCHF member.



dirtraceorbust
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December 26, 2023 at 09:46:51 PM
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I remember reading Kinser and Brownfield each lost $500,000 for their ill-attempted series.


Lawlessness + liberalism = HELL -  NYC, Detroit, Chicago, 
Seattle, LA  Who the H runs those cities. 


rpaulson
December 27, 2023 at 04:32:23 PM
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This message was edited on December 27, 2023 at 04:39:33 PM by rpaulson
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on December 26 2023 at 09:46:51 PM

I remember reading Kinser and Brownfield each lost $500,000 for their ill-attempted series.



Actually it was started by Richard Petty. Yes that Richard Petty. I think he backed-out within a month. Thats when it became the NST.

Read more here.  NSCL Formed

Read even More: NST Formed

 



PeteP
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December 27, 2023 at 05:30:59 PM
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Posted By: rpaulson on December 27 2023 at 04:32:23 PM

Actually it was started by Richard Petty. Yes that Richard Petty. I think he backed-out within a month. Thats when it became the NST.

Read more here.  NSCL Formed

Read even More: NST Formed

 



My computer does not like the first link so perhaps you can cut and paste it into this?



armyduke
December 27, 2023 at 05:54:05 PM
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Posted By: PeteP on December 27 2023 at 05:30:59 PM

My computer does not like the first link so perhaps you can cut and paste it into this?



Petty's new sprint car sanction National SprintCar League begins in 2006! | STLRacing.com

 




Murphy
December 27, 2023 at 11:34:54 PM
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on December 26 2023 at 09:46:51 PM

I remember reading Kinser and Brownfield each lost $500,000 for their ill-attempted series.



I'm having a hard time seeing how a series that only held something like 38 races could lose one million dollars.



PeteP
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December 28, 2023 at 06:11:03 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on December 27 2023 at 11:34:54 PM

I'm having a hard time seeing how a series that only held something like 38 races could lose one million dollars.



That's only like $26,000 per event. That would be easy.



Murphy
December 28, 2023 at 09:11:56 AM
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Posted By: PeteP on December 28 2023 at 06:11:03 AM

That's only like $26,000 per event. That would be easy.



Maybe for a guy like you who has trouble with math and reading.




PeteP
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December 28, 2023 at 10:45:54 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on December 28 2023 at 09:11:56 AM

Maybe for a guy like you who has trouble with math and reading.



$26,000 times 38 is $988,000 or almost a million dollars.



Murphy
December 28, 2023 at 06:30:07 PM
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Posted By: PeteP on December 28 2023 at 10:45:54 AM

$26,000 times 38 is $988,000 or almost a million dollars.



Sure, a third grader could figure that out. I was looking for intelligent conversa about it. Please move along.





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