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That race has had a huge crowd for years with or without Larson and you know that.

That's a fact

When was the last time it was run or a Thursday night?  NEVER!

When was the last time it was run or a Thursday night?  NEVER!

Yeah so....and next year the race will be run on a Saturday without Larson and still have a huge crowd.

Fact

I think the point is if you pay enough at each race, quality cars will be there regardless of tow or points. Granted unlike the outlaws it may not be the same folk at each race but your top dogs regionally plus the guys that have plenty of coin to follow it religiously will be there. So let your event stand on its own and don't hold them back from racing other shows nearby the next night. 

Open tire rules wouldn't mean allowing tire prep/dope. It just means more than one manufacturer allowed. You could still test for foreign substances if need be. In my mind most would still be on Hoosiers. The idea of competition is good and would hopefully limit costs some but idk how many other manufacturers would take on adding sprint car tires to their line. Maybe I would be surprised. I just figure one brand will be far and away more dominant and will be charging accordingly.

Only the Outlaws can grow the Outlaws. They do a good job with their brand but do little to nothing for local teams. It's a club and locals aren't part of it. HL throwing money back into the purse instead of tow and point fund gives the CHANCE to go back to a local team who can only afford to run a limited schedule. The thought is that grows sprint car racing. The WoO is worried about growing the WoO and rightfully so. They do a good job through Dirtvision. It's interesting conversation and I don't have the answers but certainly both sides have a different way of doing things. I hope both have success and I hope the Outlaws open it up a bit more (already did a little). Baby steps JMO

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The fact man will probably blame the track surface and his imaginary poor racing for attendance issues next.

I know it's been said before but this might be the biggest threat the outlaws have ever faced. The high limits merging or acquiring the allstars is huge

I'm not advocating for either series here, but your post made me think of a couple things...

About who goes to WoO races- Are you also describing the people that go to monster truck shows and professional wrestling?  In that case, isn't it all about the promotion? Wouldn't HL promote the same way to appeal to the same demographic? In 5 years, won't one or both WoO and HL have a different set of fast guys?

Open tire rule:  several top racing groups have tried open tire rule.   I believe that in the major sanctioning groups, with in their divisions that tried "open tire" or gave a choice of different manufacturers, were not pleased with the reults and went back to a single source and type(s).  

It's what happens when your so in love with your own opinions you believe everything you type to be facts.

The fact man will probably blame the track surface and his imaginary poor racing for attendance issues next.

Sorry...not sorry you can't change facts and that is all I put on here.  

I don't know enough to agree or disagreel with your post. I do know I've attended 3 Chili Bowls. In recent years I've relied on Flo. Whether I'm there, or not, those stands are full, especially later in the week. Streaming lets those of us that can't attend see the action. Maybe some of us will attend a future event. I think the same situation is true with the Knoxville Nationals. Full stands but many thousand more watching online. Traveling series can use streaming to entice people to come to an event near them. Flo is a bargain and I expect to see an increase in the annual fee sometime soon. DirVision is way too expensive for me so I completely miss at WoO events. I don't see the value, especially compared to Flo.

Flo will not raise their price as the have the luxury of thousands of subscribers for all the other sports they cover.  Basically Flo is a streaming sports channel, Dirtvision is a streaming racing channel that offers one sport.  FloSports has deeper pockets.

Flo will not raise their price as the have the luxury of thousands of subscribers for all the other sports they cover.  Basically Flo is a streaming sports channel, Dirtvision is a streaming racing channel that offers one sport.  FloSports has deeper pockets.

Not really just the same old tired opinions.