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BBOYCE1
June 29, 2020 at 04:59:47 PM
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PA Speedweek 9 nights ..great fan base and car count..looks like the short tracks have ppl hearts and soul in motorsports today..

NASCAR in Long Pond, PA = no fans allowed...




egras
June 29, 2020 at 06:31:04 PM
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Posted By: BBOYCE1 on June 29 2020 at 04:59:47 PM

PA Speedweek 9 nights ..great fan base and car count..looks like the short tracks have ppl hearts and soul in motorsports today..

NASCAR in Long Pond, PA = no fans allowed...



I don't know what's going to become of Nascar after this.  The France family says they are going to have a "restructuring."  Restructuring should not be making Nascar bigger, "louder", and more annoying.  It also shouldn't involve another cookie-cutter, cost-cutting car.  It should involve:

 

1.  Much more Saturday night under-the-lights racing at short tracks complete with heats, a last chance race and a feature.  Bristol, Richmond, and Martinsville should run 2 times per year, when it's warm, under the lights.  Period.   

2.  More small track USA.  Use some of these small tracks like Rockford (IL) Speedway, Madison (WI) Int'l Speedway, Myrtle Beach, Newton IA........throw in a race at Eldora and Knoxville.  Start making it interesting for the grassroots fan again---even if the venues are small.  There will finally be sellouts to talk about.  

3.  Can the 1-1/2 mile tracks.  Make a visit to Texas, Charlotte, Atlanta, and Vegas 1 time each year and no more.  

4.  Visit Michigan and California 1 time each year--and no more.  (If you have 4 mile-and-a-half tracks, 2 two mile tracks, and the 4 restrictor plate races, that leaves 26 races per year to be held at 1 mile or smaller tracks.  

5.  Give all of the teams a rule book and let them build their own damned race cars.  

6.  Send Michael Waltrip and Larry Mac on a 9 month long, paid vacation somewhere in the Southern Hemisphere so there is no chance they end up with a microphone or camera on them at any time during the racing season.  

 

Start with these changes and you might start to drum up some interest.  



egras
June 29, 2020 at 06:33:41 PM
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Oh, and you mentioned Long Pond, PA.  Can that boring piece of crap race as well.  If we wanted to watch cars run side by side down a 1-mile long straightaway, we'd go to a drag strip. 




oswald
June 29, 2020 at 07:54:38 PM
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It's  Nascrap. Who cares what they do 



Nick14
June 29, 2020 at 08:56:59 PM
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Posted By: egras on June 29 2020 at 06:31:04 PM

I don't know what's going to become of Nascar after this.  The France family says they are going to have a "restructuring."  Restructuring should not be making Nascar bigger, "louder", and more annoying.  It also shouldn't involve another cookie-cutter, cost-cutting car.  It should involve:

 

1.  Much more Saturday night under-the-lights racing at short tracks complete with heats, a last chance race and a feature.  Bristol, Richmond, and Martinsville should run 2 times per year, when it's warm, under the lights.  Period.   

2.  More small track USA.  Use some of these small tracks like Rockford (IL) Speedway, Madison (WI) Int'l Speedway, Myrtle Beach, Newton IA........throw in a race at Eldora and Knoxville.  Start making it interesting for the grassroots fan again---even if the venues are small.  There will finally be sellouts to talk about.  

3.  Can the 1-1/2 mile tracks.  Make a visit to Texas, Charlotte, Atlanta, and Vegas 1 time each year and no more.  

4.  Visit Michigan and California 1 time each year--and no more.  (If you have 4 mile-and-a-half tracks, 2 two mile tracks, and the 4 restrictor plate races, that leaves 26 races per year to be held at 1 mile or smaller tracks.  

5.  Give all of the teams a rule book and let them build their own damned race cars.  

6.  Send Michael Waltrip and Larry Mac on a 9 month long, paid vacation somewhere in the Southern Hemisphere so there is no chance they end up with a microphone or camera on them at any time during the racing season.  

 

Start with these changes and you might start to drum up some interest.  



Brian France and his minions did a great job of tearing apart something that was great. I've said many times, I was a huge Nascar fan and if it wasn't for that I would not have been made aware of sprint cars (TNN days). I used to watch qualifying, happy hour, trucks, Busch, Cup as well as ASA and World of Outlaws back in the 90's. During this pandemic I have gone back and watched many of those races back and 1) the racing was a lot better 2) the presentation/announcing was a lot better. If fans are allowed, I think I am going to go to the Richmond race in September just because of the track. I would say the following are the things I would like:

1. I am fine with having less Saturday night races as that used to interfer with people going to the local tracks back in the day. I think they should be saved to be special as years ago it seemed like every other race was a saturday night race (even Chicagoland for crying out loud).

2. Have more 1/2 - full mile tracks. If you want to be in Chicago or LA reconfigure them to be like Bristol or Richmond

3. Go to old historical tracks like Hickory, South Boston, Nashville fairgrounds, Myrtle Beach (I think its closing), Memphis, and for crying out loud either invest and open up North Wilkesboro or tear it down. No one is going to buy it in the shape its in Bruton & Marcus Smith.

4. Its not all about you Nascar. Work with other forms of motorsports and do not treat them as a red headed step child. If the Outlaws are at Charlotte, encourage your fans to give it a shot. One thing that pissed me off prior to the pandemic was the races in Newton IA (Trucks & Xfinity tour) were night races, the same night as the World of Outlaws at Knoville a couple weeks ago. That does no one any good. Been a great way to feature motorsports. I am fine with just the truck race on dirt, but help out with promoting other forms. Just because its not Nascar doesn't mean its second tier.

5. 1.5 - 2mile tracks get 1 race weekend. Whether you want to do 2 or 3 races that weekend is fine have at it but every weekend doesnt have to be a 1.5mile track.

6. No more blocking at any track

7. Stealing something from Hockey for either the All Star race or Busch Clash. One track or town submits their request either online, postcards, emails, etc to have their short track visited for a cup race (with a featured race that regularly happens there ie sprint cars on dirt or super late models on pavement). Can make it a non points race if you want but something to bring racing to the beginnings. Imagine seeing races at Anderson, or Berlin, Attica, Kokomo, etc

8. New announce teams. Bring back people like Ken Squire, Bob Jenkins, Eli Gold, etc.



beezr2002
June 29, 2020 at 10:34:19 PM
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One of my friends in the stands tonight said " This could be like the new nascar" . I wanted to slap some sense into him.




egras
June 29, 2020 at 11:33:50 PM
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Posted By: Nick14 on June 29 2020 at 08:56:59 PM

Brian France and his minions did a great job of tearing apart something that was great. I've said many times, I was a huge Nascar fan and if it wasn't for that I would not have been made aware of sprint cars (TNN days). I used to watch qualifying, happy hour, trucks, Busch, Cup as well as ASA and World of Outlaws back in the 90's. During this pandemic I have gone back and watched many of those races back and 1) the racing was a lot better 2) the presentation/announcing was a lot better. If fans are allowed, I think I am going to go to the Richmond race in September just because of the track. I would say the following are the things I would like:

1. I am fine with having less Saturday night races as that used to interfer with people going to the local tracks back in the day. I think they should be saved to be special as years ago it seemed like every other race was a saturday night race (even Chicagoland for crying out loud).

2. Have more 1/2 - full mile tracks. If you want to be in Chicago or LA reconfigure them to be like Bristol or Richmond

3. Go to old historical tracks like Hickory, South Boston, Nashville fairgrounds, Myrtle Beach (I think its closing), Memphis, and for crying out loud either invest and open up North Wilkesboro or tear it down. No one is going to buy it in the shape its in Bruton & Marcus Smith.

4. Its not all about you Nascar. Work with other forms of motorsports and do not treat them as a red headed step child. If the Outlaws are at Charlotte, encourage your fans to give it a shot. One thing that pissed me off prior to the pandemic was the races in Newton IA (Trucks & Xfinity tour) were night races, the same night as the World of Outlaws at Knoville a couple weeks ago. That does no one any good. Been a great way to feature motorsports. I am fine with just the truck race on dirt, but help out with promoting other forms. Just because its not Nascar doesn't mean its second tier.

5. 1.5 - 2mile tracks get 1 race weekend. Whether you want to do 2 or 3 races that weekend is fine have at it but every weekend doesnt have to be a 1.5mile track.

6. No more blocking at any track

7. Stealing something from Hockey for either the All Star race or Busch Clash. One track or town submits their request either online, postcards, emails, etc to have their short track visited for a cup race (with a featured race that regularly happens there ie sprint cars on dirt or super late models on pavement). Can make it a non points race if you want but something to bring racing to the beginnings. Imagine seeing races at Anderson, or Berlin, Attica, Kokomo, etc

8. New announce teams. Bring back people like Ken Squire, Bob Jenkins, Eli Gold, etc.



All good points.  I like number 7.  Totally with you too on the historical tracks.  Nascar's fall is a classic example of forgetting where you came from.  I too scratch my head at the lack of partnership between Newton and Knoxville.  Knoxville does not need Newton but boy could Newton use some of the Knoxville crowd.  If Nascar did a Saturday and Sunday truck and Xfinity race at noon, they would increase attendance greatly if they scheduled the same weekend as the Brownell's Big Guns Bash.  It would be a no brainer for me and my son to catch all 4 races and head home Sunday afternoon.  



digs
June 30, 2020 at 04:42:45 AM
Joined: 12/03/2004
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Posted By: egras on June 29 2020 at 06:31:04 PM

I don't know what's going to become of Nascar after this.  The France family says they are going to have a "restructuring."  Restructuring should not be making Nascar bigger, "louder", and more annoying.  It also shouldn't involve another cookie-cutter, cost-cutting car.  It should involve:

 

1.  Much more Saturday night under-the-lights racing at short tracks complete with heats, a last chance race and a feature.  Bristol, Richmond, and Martinsville should run 2 times per year, when it's warm, under the lights.  Period.   

2.  More small track USA.  Use some of these small tracks like Rockford (IL) Speedway, Madison (WI) Int'l Speedway, Myrtle Beach, Newton IA........throw in a race at Eldora and Knoxville.  Start making it interesting for the grassroots fan again---even if the venues are small.  There will finally be sellouts to talk about.  

3.  Can the 1-1/2 mile tracks.  Make a visit to Texas, Charlotte, Atlanta, and Vegas 1 time each year and no more.  

4.  Visit Michigan and California 1 time each year--and no more.  (If you have 4 mile-and-a-half tracks, 2 two mile tracks, and the 4 restrictor plate races, that leaves 26 races per year to be held at 1 mile or smaller tracks.  

5.  Give all of the teams a rule book and let them build their own damned race cars.  

6.  Send Michael Waltrip and Larry Mac on a 9 month long, paid vacation somewhere in the Southern Hemisphere so there is no chance they end up with a microphone or camera on them at any time during the racing season.  

 

Start with these changes and you might start to drum up some interest.  



I'll double-dog-dare that #6, send them far far away, to never never land, where they'll never return...

 

I'd like to see them do a speed week of sorts, 7 or 9 nights traight, see how long their motor homes sewage tanks hold-out...



Fireman
June 30, 2020 at 10:40:05 AM
Joined: 12/22/2004
Posts: 126
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I stopped watching nascar many years ago when they started messing around with the ORGINAL Point System - I'd say go back to that system.

I seem to remember a few years ago nascar also said they wouldn't race on Saturday Night so as not to interfer with the local tracks, so much for that as was pointed out when they run Newton on Saturday Night against Knoxville. 

 

 

 





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