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Threebeerminimum
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June 11, 2018 at 04:51:32 PM
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Looks like Chuck is about to become a farmer. 

http://www.kdlt.com/2018/06/11/badlands-speedway-suspends-auction-after-zoning-letter-from-minnehaha-co/




SprintFan16
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June 11, 2018 at 05:17:46 PM
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Well, that doesn't look good. I'm not fully familiar with it - is this a local government that has been against the track like in many other areas? Seems pretty cut and dry based on how the ordinance is written. 



kossuth
June 11, 2018 at 06:13:03 PM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on June 11 2018 at 05:17:46 PM

Well, that doesn't look good. I'm not fully familiar with it - is this a local government that has been against the track like in many other areas? Seems pretty cut and dry based on how the ordinance is written. 



If it’s all legit there is no hope of the track reopening ever.



Murphy
June 11, 2018 at 07:04:01 PM
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    I dunno. I see it differently. Chuck knew exactly what he had to do to keep his zoning irregulatities grandfathered in. He just didn't follow through on what he needed to do. You can make your own decision about who gets the blame for that.

     I don't think this neccesarily means the property can only be used for agriculture. I think it means for the property to be used as a race track it will require a conditional use permit. The county would get to make a lot more rules and conditions and the permit would probably have to be renewed every year. That's not the end of the world. It would probably mean that whoever operates the track would probably have to address the concerns of those living near the track- like noise, dust and traffic. I feel those are some things that are years past needing to be addressed.

     If anything, this turn of events has just made it harder to operate the facility and therefore lowered the value of the race track. If a guy stopped and thought about it for a bit, maybe the best option would be to lease it to somone willing to work with the county and the neighbors( and other tracks, the WoO, etc....)



blazer00
June 11, 2018 at 10:26:46 PM
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I wonder how many now still support Brennan and the decisions/direction he went with Husets? If we never have Husets back as a race track due to rezoning, it's only fitting that Brennan loses a pile of cash because of his actions. The property has no value as a farm.



kooks
June 11, 2018 at 10:44:23 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 11 2018 at 10:26:46 PM

I wonder how many now still support Brennan and the decisions/direction he went with Husets? If we never have Husets back as a race track due to rezoning, it's only fitting that Brennan loses a pile of cash because of his actions. The property has no value as a farm.



I don't know about "no value as a farm" but its certainly worth a lot less than as a racetrack.

Basically its a cow pasture if its not a racetrack.    Cow pasture is worth somewhere in the $3000 per acre range.

 

Far cry from the nearly $10,000,000 Chucky thinks it worth.



RodinCanada
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June 11, 2018 at 11:15:14 PM
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Seems like all he needed to do was host one race earlier this summer to buy himself another 364 days as a race track. If it was as "turn key" as they said it should have been easy. 

Saw an interview with the Mayor speaking how wonderful it was for the community to have the track in operation. Makes me wonder if he was sincere or not and wonder how easy the county and community would be to work with if the track is really a huge asset to their economy.



oswald
June 11, 2018 at 11:25:22 PM
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Gotta love ol' Chuck. He sure did a lot for the betterment of sprint car racing in the midwest, didn't he!



MK4k
June 12, 2018 at 12:12:11 AM
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Posted By: kooks on June 11 2018 at 10:44:23 PM

I don't know about "no value as a farm" but its certainly worth a lot less than as a racetrack.

Basically its a cow pasture if its not a racetrack.    Cow pasture is worth somewhere in the $3000 per acre range.

 

Far cry from the nearly $10,000,000 Chucky thinks it worth.



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leadfoot23
June 12, 2018 at 04:49:44 AM
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Ponder this...city rezones track; track loses value; city buys track for a fraction of what ole Chuck thinks it’s worth; track becomes a fairgrounds after it’s rezoned back to a racing venue...

When I first read this thread I was thinking the track is gone.  But the comments from the mayor (from Rodin Canada’s post) makes me think they might just have the cajones to pull something like this off.  Even if they don’t, it’s an interesting conversation topic. 



FORD97
June 12, 2018 at 07:06:51 AM
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Nothing in the letter from the county said he had to halt the sale. 

He simply got told he failed to maintain the status of his conditional use permit. The next owner will have to apply for a conditional use permit. 

I hightly doubt there will be an issue. The track makes money for the county. 

This is little more than a hilarious tweaking of Lil' Chucky by mail.


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Schreurs12
June 12, 2018 at 07:44:56 AM
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I get a kick out of how differently people can interpret that article. All its saying is their conditional use permit expired and they will need to apply for another in order to race. There is enough pull around the area for having the track open than there is having it closed so I would imagine getting a permit wont be a big issue. There might me some more rules than before, like mufflers or a curfew, but Im confident it will open again. Hopefully I-90 does as well since we just had another local track announce its closing in Sioux Speedway.



madsen
June 12, 2018 at 07:56:00 AM
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It means nothing.  The local governing body will obviously allow a permit again.  Its economic development.  Stupid to think just because the permit ran out they can't get another.  Lawyers would be drooling to take this case if it came to something so rediculous as to not allow a permit.  

Also, pasture land worth $3,000 an acre?  As someone who has been around farming all his life, you can buy land useful for only pasture, anyplace in the midwest for $500 an acre.  

 


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kooks
June 12, 2018 at 07:57:28 AM
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Posted By: Schreurs12 on June 12 2018 at 07:44:56 AM

I get a kick out of how differently people can interpret that article. All its saying is their conditional use permit expired and they will need to apply for another in order to race. There is enough pull around the area for having the track open than there is having it closed so I would imagine getting a permit wont be a big issue. There might me some more rules than before, like mufflers or a curfew, but Im confident it will open again. Hopefully I-90 does as well since we just had another local track announce its closing in Sioux Speedway.



Conditions like mufflers and a curfew necessarily wouldn't be a bad thing either.

 



kooks
June 12, 2018 at 08:06:10 AM
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Posted By: madsen on June 12 2018 at 07:56:00 AM

It means nothing.  The local governing body will obviously allow a permit again.  Its economic development.  Stupid to think just because the permit ran out they can't get another.  Lawyers would be drooling to take this case if it came to something so rediculous as to not allow a permit.  

Also, pasture land worth $3,000 an acre?  As someone who has been around farming all his life, you can buy land useful for only pasture, anyplace in the midwest for $500 an acre.  

 



I've seen river pasture on auction sell for over $4000/acre in NW IA (within 30 miles of the track).

You must be thinking of the actual Badlands, you won't buy pasture anywhere in Southeast SD for $500/acre.  



IADIRT
June 12, 2018 at 09:38:32 AM
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Posted By: madsen on June 12 2018 at 07:56:00 AM

It means nothing.  The local governing body will obviously allow a permit again.  Its economic development.  Stupid to think just because the permit ran out they can't get another.  Lawyers would be drooling to take this case if it came to something so rediculous as to not allow a permit.  

Also, pasture land worth $3,000 an acre?  As someone who has been around farming all his life, you can buy land useful for only pasture, anyplace in the midwest for $500 an acre.  

 



Show me any kind of land (farm ground, pasture, or otherwise) in Mahaska County Iowa for 500 an acre and I'll buy it. The land around Husets could be farmed just like the other side of the creek is now. 3000 an acre isn't a stretch by any means.



blazer00
June 12, 2018 at 01:40:36 PM
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Posted By: IADIRT on June 12 2018 at 09:38:32 AM

Show me any kind of land (farm ground, pasture, or otherwise) in Mahaska County Iowa for 500 an acre and I'll buy it. The land around Husets could be farmed just like the other side of the creek is now. 3000 an acre isn't a stretch by any means.



The race track side floods pretty intensely from time to time. I've seen it with the entire pit shack nearly under water.



IADIRT
June 12, 2018 at 02:47:49 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 12 2018 at 01:40:36 PM

The race track side floods pretty intensely from time to time. I've seen it with the entire pit shack nearly under water.



I don't disagree and have seen pictures as well but according to satellite the track sits no lower than the field farmed to the SW. Whether farmed or just pasture/hay field its not going for 500 an acre. Heck people who live in the bigger cities are buying more and more junk ground to make into hunting properties driving the costs way up. Timber ground here in Southern Iowa will bring way more than 500 an acre.



RHC
June 12, 2018 at 03:11:58 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 12 2018 at 01:40:36 PM

The race track side floods pretty intensely from time to time. I've seen it with the entire pit shack nearly under water.



I believe you are referring to the Husets flood from June, 2014
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Johnny Utah
June 12, 2018 at 07:25:03 PM
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Posted By: RHC on June 12 2018 at 03:11:58 PM

I believe you are referring to the Husets flood from June, 2014
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Strawser thinks that track still needs more water. 





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