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Chuck_DeFrank
April 14, 2018 at 10:05:40 PM
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1. Lance Deweese

2.Aaron Reutzel

3. Anthony Macri

4. Steve Buckwalter

5. Greg Hodnett

6. Mike Wagner

7. Dylan Cisaey

8. Ryan Smith   (started 20th)

9. Daryn Pittman (long tow)

10. Ryan Taylor

Pretty Good Race The Only Thing That Really Sucked Was The Open Red For Fuel...




revjimk
April 14, 2018 at 11:10:58 PM
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Again??? wow

Look out Mansfield!



RodinCanada
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April 15, 2018 at 12:30:43 AM
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How does Pittman get to race here? I know the WoO were rained out but I thoight it was a no no regardless if the WoO are racing or not. Please explain. Thx.



Johnny Gibson
April 15, 2018 at 02:32:04 AM
Joined: 12/02/2004
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WoO Platinum members can race at tracks that host a WoO event at some point during the year.  Port Royal has a two day show in October.  (Same reason Brad Sweet raced the SCCT event at Placerville when WoO was off Easter weekend.)



El Wingador
April 15, 2018 at 07:24:01 AM
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Posted By: Chuck_DeFrank on April 14 2018 at 10:05:40 PM

 

1. Lance Deweese

2.Aaron Reutzel

3. Anthony Macri

4. Steve Buckwalter

5. Greg Hodnett

6. Mike Wagner

7. Dylan Cisaey

8. Ryan Smith   (started 20th)

9. Daryn Pittman (long tow)

10. Ryan Taylor

Pretty Good Race The Only Thing That Really Sucked Was The Open Red For Fuel...



The only All Star in the top 10 was Reutzel and if that open red hadn’t come out, the Posse would have lost that one. I think a win at Port Royal against the Posse would have to be just a notch below Reutzel winning his first WoO show. The Posse talent pool of drivers runs deep …! It was a great show no doubt …!!



alum.427
April 15, 2018 at 08:24:38 AM
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Ya, they boost many travelers are following them this year. Well, they came to Posse country and were shown that they need to get there program a little better to run in central pa. i would say. 



railfan33
April 15, 2018 at 11:16:00 AM
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Posted By: El Wingador on April 15 2018 at 07:24:01 AM

The only All Star in the top 10 was Reutzel and if that open red hadn’t come out, the Posse would have lost that one. I think a win at Port Royal against the Posse would have to be just a notch below Reutzel winning his first WoO show. The Posse talent pool of drivers runs deep …! It was a great show no doubt …!!



Really surprised to see how poorly Kemenah and Tim Shaffer (I know he’s not Allstar). Mechanical issues perhaps? 



larsonfan
April 15, 2018 at 11:57:52 AM
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Posted By: alum.427 on April 15 2018 at 08:24:38 AM

Ya, they boost many travelers are following them this year. Well, they came to Posse country and were shown that they need to get there program a little better to run in central pa. i would say. 



Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? There are some great fans in PA, but there are some who take things to a whole other level of absurdity.



dsc1600
April 15, 2018 at 05:11:12 PM
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Actually I think it’s the All Star bandwagon jumpers who are so excited about 17-20 guys following the tour this year, yada yada who are taking it to a level of absurdity. .

Reutzel is a fine driver, so is McMahan and Macedo, but it’s not like they put the group on the level of the WoO or the Posse on their own tracks. 



fiXXXer
April 15, 2018 at 05:47:34 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on April 15 2018 at 11:57:52 AM

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? There are some great fans in PA, but there are some who take things to a whole other level of absurdity.



Agreed. When our guys tow out to Ohio or anywhere else for that matter, they usually do mediocre at best. Run that same race with those same exact cars at Attica and you'd see a very different result. Not saying Dewease or Dietrich couldn't win because they could but we all know how it typically goes. 



larsonfan
April 15, 2018 at 06:19:44 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on April 15 2018 at 05:11:12 PM

Actually I think it’s the All Star bandwagon jumpers who are so excited about 17-20 guys following the tour this year, yada yada who are taking it to a level of absurdity. .

Reutzel is a fine driver, so is McMahan and Macedo, but it’s not like they put the group on the level of the WoO or the Posse on their own tracks. 



In my younger years when I played golf, I tossed clubs around and cursed like a sailor because I took it way too seriously. Now, when I hit a bad shot (which is 9 shots out of 10), I laugh it off, grab another ball and hack away. Now I enjoy the time with friends and am thankful for the chance to enjoy something I love.

Just be thankful you have the opportunity to go to the races and do something you enjoy. Don't take this stuff so seriously. That's all I'm saying

 



bighess11
April 15, 2018 at 08:11:56 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on April 15 2018 at 08:24:38 AM

Ya, they boost many travelers are following them this year. Well, they came to Posse country and were shown that they need to get there program a little better to run in central pa. i would say. 



We will see how tough the posse Is when they get off the porch for the 100k at Mansfield. 


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GTigers55
April 15, 2018 at 09:56:55 PM
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A lot of WoO regulars struggle big time in PA as well. A lot of it has to do with the amount of races the drivers run/have ran each year, the track configuration (in grove's case) and the fact that there is 8 or so very talented drivers there. Now, as someone else mentioned if you take those drivers too an unfamiliar track in the same field it may be a different story. When you have 20 races a year at a track you're gonna have the set up down pat too. I respect the talent that some of the drivers have and look forward to seeing them at the Mansfield race since I won't have the chance to drive to PA for a long time.



dsc1600
April 15, 2018 at 10:08:11 PM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on April 15 2018 at 09:56:55 PM

A lot of WoO regulars struggle big time in PA as well. A lot of it has to do with the amount of races the drivers run/have ran each year, the track configuration (in grove's case) and the fact that there is 8 or so very talented drivers there. Now, as someone else mentioned if you take those drivers too an unfamiliar track in the same field it may be a different story. When you have 20 races a year at a track you're gonna have the set up down pat too. I respect the talent that some of the drivers have and look forward to seeing them at the Mansfield race since I won't have the chance to drive to PA for a long time.



It’s a very rare occasion that the WoO perform as badly as the all stars as a group. I can remember a couple of times during the streak and the first time they went back to Lincoln it was a total shellacking, but rare. 



dsc1600
April 15, 2018 at 10:09:24 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on April 15 2018 at 06:19:44 PM

In my younger years when I played golf, I tossed clubs around and cursed like a sailor because I took it way too seriously. Now, when I hit a bad shot (which is 9 shots out of 10), I laugh it off, grab another ball and hack away. Now I enjoy the time with friends and am thankful for the chance to enjoy something I love.

Just be thankful you have the opportunity to go to the races and do something you enjoy. Don't take this stuff so seriously. That's all I'm saying

 



I enjoy debating sprint car racing almost as much as I do watching it. It’s all in good fun.



SAF92
April 16, 2018 at 07:43:34 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on April 15 2018 at 05:47:34 PM

Agreed. When our guys tow out to Ohio or anywhere else for that matter, they usually do mediocre at best. Run that same race with those same exact cars at Attica and you'd see a very different result. Not saying Dewease or Dietrich couldn't win because they could but we all know how it typically goes. 



I agree, in PA the Posse is incredibly tough. But for one of the more successful PA drivers, Dietrich, who gets off the porch more than the rest... I've seen him run a handful of times at Attica, Eldora, Wayne county. Hes never done worth a shit over here... Just like when Ohio guys come to PA.

Believe it or not but when the WoO came to Ohio's goofiest track, Fremont, low-budget teams like Caleb Griffith and Bryan Sebetto were able to hang with the outlaws. I wanna say both Caleb and Bryan finished on the podium with Donny one year. Kemenah, Blaney, & Sahffer won all the other WoO visits. And I believe last year's Brad Doty Classic @ Attica saw the smallest amount of WoO make the feature. Hardcore Posse fans don't wanna hear it but Ohio tracks and competition is just as good as PA.



Imkingalec
April 16, 2018 at 09:05:46 AM
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Posted By: alum.427 on April 15 2018 at 08:24:38 AM

Ya, they boost many travelers are following them this year. Well, they came to Posse country and were shown that they need to get there program a little better to run in central pa. i would say. 



Yet you barely hear about any posse members outside of pa



blazer00
April 16, 2018 at 10:41:02 AM
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This message was edited on April 16, 2018 at 10:43:06 AM by blazer00

I don't know what any of the business chains might be in PA and surrounding states, so maybe you PA fans can enlightem me. I do PPV quite a few PA races and to me what I see is this. The teams all seem to attract all kinds of local businesses for sponsorship, which is great, and the cars are all well wrapped with advertising of those sponsors. Lots of sponsors from what I see. I don't recall seeing anything but local sponsors....nothing much for national companies.  Again, based on what I don't know about the area. So in fairness to the drivers and teams, it makes sense that travelling would defeat the intent of what their sponsors are on board for.....local advertising. Plus, they have plenty of racing in PA to keep them busy. The drivers that we have that travel, have the kind of sponsorships that makes sense for travel. Brian Brown has Casey's General Stores and FVP. Both are huge companies that flourish in several states for quite a distance and nationally. Kerry Madsen has Muddy/Big Game and Jackson Motorplex Nationals as sponsors. So again, travelling really fits in with reaching prospective customers. McCarl has sponsors that fit well with his plans as well, and he owns his own car. I can see based on those differences alone, why the PA guys stick closer to home. If I owned a local business, it wouldn't make sense to me to sponsor a car that spends a lot of time on the road.



railfan33
April 16, 2018 at 11:30:53 AM
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Posted By: Imkingalec on April 16 2018 at 09:05:46 AM

Yet you barely hear about any posse members outside of pa



That’s because ”Posse” is NOT a traveling group. They are considered locals. I think Blazer is spot on in his post above. Local sponsorship for the most part, drivers (most) who have full time jobs, and perhaps more important car owners that prefer to run locally.

How many Ohio teams make the haul to Pa? Cole Duncan makes the haul occasionally and does well. There were 3 drivers from Ohio that ran the National Open last year ($50,000 to win). 2, Wild Child and Wilson, were WoO regulars and Blaney was the hired gun for the 1z. No regular Ohio teams. 

Primary factor driving travel decisions is most likely economics!!!



Nickules
April 16, 2018 at 01:11:46 PM
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Posted By: Chuck_DeFrank on April 14 2018 at 10:05:40 PM

 

1. Lance Deweese

2.Aaron Reutzel

3. Anthony Macri

4. Steve Buckwalter

5. Greg Hodnett

6. Mike Wagner

7. Dylan Cisaey

8. Ryan Smith   (started 20th)

9. Daryn Pittman (long tow)

10. Ryan Taylor

Pretty Good Race The Only Thing That Really Sucked Was The Open Red For Fuel...



Is Anthony Macri quietly one of the best young talents in Central PA?  I mean the kid is 18 I think.  Yes there are several "young" talents in Posse land (not quite as many as CA right now) but Anthony's got a bright future and is still a teenager.  Kid is impressive and has talent for sure. 





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