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I heard talk this weekend that Brill's are changing the Factory stock rules and opening them up to a Street Stock.  Is there any truth to that?

Well there is going to be a rules meeting, coming soon, Mark say's the rules are close to a street stock already, but I hope we get them even closer to a real street stock, I want aluminum intakes and after market bodies, and to open them up a little more, after the meeting I will post and let all know what was approved, I think the racing would be more exciting with cars that are able to run like the street stocks do now, cause it is not fair for guy's who have street stock - pro stock type cars vs. guy's who have more of a factory stock type car, so rules need to be revised so all can have the same type of cars with weight jacks, tubular a-arms, aluminum intakes, etc. etc. etc, more exciting racing, than a regular factory stock class, just my opinion...

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Danny, have they set a date for the rules meeting yet?  I to am interested in building a street stock if they change the rules to follow the other tracks Enid, Ada, okc.

Mike, they have not set a date, it was just talked about after the races Saturday night, he said he would try to make a date & time in the near future, and get all Factory drivers together and set it up, as soon as I know something i will post it here...

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Now, would this be on the order of what Ardmore has with their factory stocks/I-Stocks or something completely different? The Allens and Jorski really ran well against their regulars and their regulars are FAST!!! They also put on a great show and had 34 this past weekend.

Also, what do you think about the following rules:

http://www.usraracing.com/rules-hobbystock.asp

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

What we are talking about is moving the other direction and bring in street stock.  With the same type rules Enid,Ada and OKC pro stocks have.

Isn't this similar to what has happened to the OKC Factory Stock rules??? And isn't it EXACTLY what lots of people have been complaining about in regards to the OKC Factory Stocks??? Why not just run Pro-Stocks and a TRUE Factory Stock class???? Not EVERYONE who competes in Factory Stocks can afford these changes. What happened to the idea of trying to keep racing budgets reasonable. Sounds to me like another class where the guys with all the $$$$ win all the races. Not good for car counts or spectator counts.

In my humble opinion a step in the other direction would be bettter. Keep Factory Stocks an affordable STOCK (or nearly stock) class. If you drive/own a Factory Stock and want to spend more bucks (translated: go faster) move up to Pro's or Strrets or Mods. The way things are going there will not be an affordable entry-level class at any track. I would think that you drivers/owners would get tired of it costing more and more each year to go racing, much less to actually be competitive.

No David, totaly different, just like a street stock-pro stock type rules, there are a few cars who have a different chassis and are pro stocks - street stocks and are allowed to run at Brill, so what needs to happen is get the rules revised to where all can run the same thing, our factory has no weight jacks, no aftermarket a-arms, no motor plate, Mark said the rules are close to street stock on what is allowed now, but we run and alot others run a legal Factory Stock, some run a Pro Stock, which a Pro Stock Chassis will out run and out handle a Factory any day, so what is going to happen is get the rules meeting and have all FS drivers voice thier opinions and get together and get some revisions or additions to the rules, and get everyone on the same playing field, cause a street stock - pro stock you can race at several tracks in the state. So when I hear a date on the meeting i will post and let all know, I think with more rules like a Pro or Street we will get more cars from other places, which should have some good close competative racing, and bring more fans to the races also, I like Factory's but you just cant do enough to a real FS, I like the Street - Pro Better, just my opinion...

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Larry I know you like Factory's & so do I, but I would love to see a Pro / Street Class come to Brill, I have heard thru the Grapevine alot of people would come to race there if Streets were allowed to race, but a street / prp against a true factory, not a very fair race, cause the chassis has more adjustment and handles better than a factory any day, hats off to Brian for getting a great new car, that thing handles and runs very good, nice looking car too...

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

the only thing with going to a street stock class is that theres not a whole lot of competition as it is. now make it even more expensive and see what happens?

john

Yeah..... I was wondering when they started letting late model cars run with the factories.

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I wouldn't mind seeing a Pro/Strret class either, but not to replace the current factory stock class. What's wrong with an economical class that EVERYONE can be competitive in. Although I'll be the first to admit I'm not sure how to accomplish that, I still believe it could be done.

Brian's car was sweet looking and it did handle well, but he still finished in the pits, so it didn't matter what class it "belonged in". The 19 car from Muskogee was doing a fairly good job of keeping up also. Good to see some close competition in that class.

yes sir. Have any of you checked street stock counts at other tracks lately? and thats after runnin em for a few years. And as long as SFS pro stocks run that Brodix spec head doubt you will see many of them. It would be a horrible decision to do anything like a street or pro class. Take a good look around the state. I'm a sprint car fan but even I see it. It's damn near dead. Thats great that some have the money to spend and what it opened up like that - tell em to head on over to okc and make our car count a lil bigger. What BMS needs to do is the opposite of what other tracks have done.

Announcer, you are right on man. That direction they all want to go is a desperate one with wishful thinking for near and long-term futures. The only way the class will even get better is to keep the rules down - costs low. look at problems with okc pro's and factories.......do ya'll want that? if the same thing was done at Meeker USA it would be way worse. I'd bet money that aside from special shows there would NEVER be a feature with 15 or more cars. Lookin at how that 1J runs - ya'll almost need a limited factory class. lol. I'm jokin.......but if anyone has the best for BMS in mind then going to streets is the wrong way to go. Keep the costs down - so the class can get better.

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yes, Mr. Announcer I finished in the pits not because my car broke, But because of all the griping about my car, I won on Friday Night and Saturday Morning Everyone wanted to protest me for tublar upper a_arms which 3 or 4 other factory stocks run. True I had A Alluminun Body But come on does that make a difference. I still Weighed 3200 Pounds. The point being We all know who was the fastest on saturday night and its not the way the car looks, it's the way it's set up, I could have won the A feature on saturday night but I chose to pull off and let everyone else have a shot at the 1J, Because I got mine Friday. Good job Johnny and chad and the 19 car for their performances.

Wolfe Racing 15

Well, I do know this as the talk after the races is that weight jacks are allowed on all classes at BMS, where we have none, and stock a-arms & shocks mounted in stock locations, after market bodies we want them also, and we did ask at the beginning of the year if we could put one on and was told no, a after market body is alot easier to work on and more cost effective, if you get damage, and also the other thing that was brought up was we will talk about running aluminum intakes, I do want to see that also, if a few cars have tubular a-arms & weight jacks & after market bodies, etc. etc, then all cars should have them also, I want the factory class to be alive and well, but if all have the same cars with same parts, Brian do you see what a new car on a good chassis and set up good does now, cause you was fast and handled very good, I can't blame you for buying a new car, all I am saying is if any cars that are not full factory and run after market stuff like a Pro Stock type car, then all others should be allowed to run the same things also, that is why there will be a meeting for all factory drivers to voice what they want & don't want, to make the class better, when Mark announces the meeting I will post it here, all please come to it and lets improve the class a little and make for some better competition, closer racing is always more fun and better for the fans, and more fun for drivers too...

No the Body does not make a difference, what does is chassis adjustments, so you can be able to change a little for a tacky track or a dry track...

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Brian,

I meant no offense when I said you finished in the pits. Merely stating fact. I had heard that you chose to pull off for the reasons you stated. A classy decision. I can't say whether your car would have been protested or not, but I also heard the complaints. Someone's always complaining about something though.

Might have been interesting to see what decision would have been made had you won! Good Luck next year!

Mr. Announcer no offense taken, I just wanted you to know the real reason I pulled off. Believe me it was hard, but it was best for our class at brill motor speedway. After all it wouldn't really be a win if your fellow drivers all thought you were cheeting. Thanks for the compliment and God Bless! See Ya, next year!

Wolfe Racing 15