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MSPN
July 14, 2017 at 09:54:39 PM
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Christopher Bell is the second coming of Kyle Larson, he's that impressive.  Non-Outlaws take 4 of the top 6 spots, hello PA...




GTigers55
July 14, 2017 at 10:03:44 PM
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Christopher Bell almost had Schatz at the Royal last year. He's one heck of a driver. Got to see him quite a bit in Ohio the past two years he's always a threat to win. I don't know if I'd go quite as far as Larson, or even if Larson is old enough to have a second coming for that matter lol



egras
July 14, 2017 at 10:12:02 PM
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Posted By: MSPN on July 14 2017 at 09:54:39 PM

Christopher Bell is the second coming of Kyle Larson, he's that impressive.  Non-Outlaws take 4 of the top 6 spots, hello PA...



Congrats the Christopher Bell.

Please explain the "second coming of Kyle Larson" comment.  I did not see the race so apparently he ran lines that no one else ran tonight?  Passed some cars above the cushion?  

Like I said, didn't see the race or highlights yet.  

Obviously, for you to make this comment, there was more to it than him winning from the inside of the 2nd row?  




MSPN
July 14, 2017 at 10:18:49 PM
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He rarely races sprint cars anymore and even more rarely 410's, after being passed by Mr. Schatz he repassed him and drove away, he is a very gifted young man on his way....By the way, he ran the top, the bottom, the middle, wherever he ran he was the fastest, it was pretty dusty and there was lapped traffic as well...

 



egras
July 14, 2017 at 10:32:41 PM
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Posted By: MSPN on July 14 2017 at 10:18:49 PM

He rarely races sprint cars anymore and even more rarely 410's, after being passed by Mr. Schatz he repassed him and drove away, he is a very gifted young man on his way....By the way, he ran the top, the bottom, the middle, wherever he ran he was the fastest, it was pretty dusty and there was lapped traffic as well...

 



Thanks for the clarification.  



dsc1600
July 14, 2017 at 10:47:04 PM
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One of my pet peeves is when people put Bell and Rico in with Larson. Both are tremendous talents, but Larson is a once in a generation driver. 

Kudos to Bell tonight, heck of a drive. 




MSPN
July 14, 2017 at 10:55:30 PM
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I'm not sure but hasn't Bell won in a NASCAR truck, a USAC Midget a 360 and now against the Outlaws in the last couple of weeks?



jtslingin
July 14, 2017 at 11:28:37 PM
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Yessir!!



motorhead748
July 15, 2017 at 12:31:55 AM
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Posted By: egras on July 14 2017 at 10:12:02 PM

Congrats the Christopher Bell.

Please explain the "second coming of Kyle Larson" comment.  I did not see the race so apparently he ran lines that no one else ran tonight?  Passed some cars above the cushion?  

Like I said, didn't see the race or highlights yet.  

Obviously, for you to make this comment, there was more to it than him winning from the inside of the 2nd row?  



I was there. I'd have to think Long & hard if there were more than 5 meaningful passes for position all night and Bell made 3 of them. 




smokerudrinkplayeruget
July 15, 2017 at 12:41:14 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on July 14 2017 at 10:55:30 PM

I'm not sure but hasn't Bell won in a NASCAR truck, a USAC Midget a 360 and now against the Outlaws in the last couple of weeks?



Indeed, damn impressive, Bell's resume is speaking for itself



Dryslick Willie
July 15, 2017 at 04:06:36 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 14 2017 at 10:47:04 PM

One of my pet peeves is when people put Bell and Rico in with Larson. Both are tremendous talents, but Larson is a once in a generation driver. 

Kudos to Bell tonight, heck of a drive. 



He's another Kyle Larson.   Sorry if you don't like it....



saphead
July 15, 2017 at 05:53:43 AM
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He's definitely in the conversation. 




saphead
July 15, 2017 at 06:48:12 AM
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The F.Q.I. (Fan Quality Index) was pretty high last night. There was no one standing up during the racing, or falling down the steps drunk, at least in my section. Overall it was a pretty tame & orderly crowd. But maybe they were just tired from the Knight Before. 

Who knows. 

 



minthess
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July 15, 2017 at 07:10:22 AM
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Just more support of how special the 80s and 90s were.  We are probably being a little too critical of Eldora. Its lack of talent and balls that were not seeing great stuff on the wall more than track issues. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

MSPN
July 15, 2017 at 07:11:32 AM
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I see what you did there Sapmeister, you still got it my old friend.  

This format of fast cars to the Front Row is a joke, if not for Shane Stewart last night there would not have been a meaningful pass in 6 Heat Races.  USAC inverts 6 and puts on a better show 9 out of 10 nights, it seems.  Heck the PA people know what I'm talking about for their weekly shows and their Feature invert....




MSPN
July 15, 2017 at 07:23:10 AM
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I was and still am and always will be critical of the format, mot Eldora in this case.  That's for another day and they were running about as high as you can get anymore, last night.

Watch when the 24th fastest car starts on the Pole in his Heat Race tonite, this is a format that will produce passing and sandbagging during qualifying such as lifting 50 feet early, lol.  Tonights Heats will be somewhat like Knoxville's two preliminary nights at the Nationals, the two best nights of racing action all year long most of the time.



GTigers55
July 15, 2017 at 07:47:47 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on July 15 2017 at 07:11:32 AM

I see what you did there Sapmeister, you still got it my old friend.  

This format of fast cars to the Front Row is a joke, if not for Shane Stewart last night there would not have been a meaningful pass in 6 Heat Races.  USAC inverts 6 and puts on a better show 9 out of 10 nights, it seems.  Heck the PA people know what I'm talking about for their weekly shows and their Feature invert....



I like everything about the WoO Format except the lack of any invert. If they kept the exact same format and added in an invert 4 in the heat races like the all stars and many of the tracks I visit it would go a long way to make the heats better racing. I'm glad they don't just give the fast qualifiers the dash anymore. They've made steps in the right direction but I do hope they add an invert in the future again. I believe Dale Blaney also passed for a transfer. Not sure if it was him but there were 2 drivers out of 18 who came from outside the top 3 to transfer out of heat.



shernernum
July 15, 2017 at 08:29:23 AM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on July 15 2017 at 07:47:47 AM

I like everything about the WoO Format except the lack of any invert. If they kept the exact same format and added in an invert 4 in the heat races like the all stars and many of the tracks I visit it would go a long way to make the heats better racing. I'm glad they don't just give the fast qualifiers the dash anymore. They've made steps in the right direction but I do hope they add an invert in the future again. I believe Dale Blaney also passed for a transfer. Not sure if it was him but there were 2 drivers out of 18 who came from outside the top 3 to transfer out of heat.



Isn't the 4 invert exactly what they had before this year and then got rid of it (or two years ago, brain is foggy)?




Kingpin2014
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July 15, 2017 at 09:14:22 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on July 14 2017 at 10:55:30 PM

I'm not sure but hasn't Bell won in a NASCAR truck, a USAC Midget a 360 and now against the Outlaws in the last couple of weeks?



And an All-Star race last Saturday against a pretty stout field



RodinCanada
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July 15, 2017 at 09:57:24 AM
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If you invert 4 or 6 everytime is there still a need or reason to have a dash? If they did wouldnt they try to finish 4th or 6th making the race a waste of time and fuel? 

What is a realistic way of staging the A main if you have 4 heats? Do winners start 5th to 8?

How do you eliminate sand bagging? Do you give huge points for fast time and heat wins so it would be better to win a heat and finish 4th or 6th in the A?


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