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razorback1772
May 04, 2017 at 03:35:21 PM
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What's going on with Joey this year? Not running too well....I'm a huge fan so I'm looking forward to seeing him improve moving forward!!!!!




YungWun24
May 04, 2017 at 03:49:14 PM
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Welcome to Hoseheads...

I haven't seen him race in person yet but the talents there. He's on a new team so I'll give him that however to crack the top 6 in points is so tough this season. The top 3 are pretty consistent however the next 4 -5 teams could easily interchange next year. 

If he was on his second and 3rd year with this team and not at least 7th place in the points I'd be more concerned, however the young guys of Sheldon and Logan will have that many more races under their belt. 

I know some of the people stuck in the 70s and 80s will say the field is weak but IMO this year may be the strongest top to bottom. 


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GTigers55
May 04, 2017 at 04:10:28 PM
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I would say the majority of the issue is indeed being on a new team, also one that is making it's inagural tour on the WoO. However, I do think that Saldana is getting to the point where he isn't gonna be one of the top dogs everyrace now. Not to say he won't be competitve but I think that with the influx of young talent the wins will be far and few between. I'd say he wins at max 3 races this year but that's just my relatively low valued opinion as a fan. He'd still smoke a lot of non-WoO drivers, just in WoO it's getting stronger each year lately.



longtimemitchfan
May 04, 2017 at 04:56:59 PM
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Not that I am a Ford basher but arent they running Ford in the 17,Joey has not been fast since crash in Florida.Alot of teams are struggling right now Pittman is missing something and Shane Stewart is still winless.

Last weekend was the worst i have seen Hodnett run in all the years hes raced in Pa.

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egras
May 04, 2017 at 05:00:56 PM
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Agree with both of you.  Not saying his skills have diminished dramatically, but he is obviously getting older and some driver's skills decline quicker than others.  I seriously doubt he has lost more than a 1/10 of a step but as you both eluded to, the competition is fierce this year.  You won't have to be off much (whether it be personal ability or team experience) to look like you are off the pace.  He hasn't looked like the Joey of old over the last couple of years.  No one can deny that.  Over the last couple of years he has been fast during qualifying many times only to fade during the racing program.  This year, I haven't seen him in the picture much when watching highlights.  

I like Joey and hope it is merely getting used to the new team.  However, it may not be unrealistic to think his better days are by him.  



jtslingin
May 04, 2017 at 05:26:51 PM
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No Ford



alum.427
May 04, 2017 at 07:30:15 PM
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He has had the name. That alone got his foot in the door on opportunities that I'm  sure have been beneficial to Saldana. I don't dislike the guy, but, I think his ranking would be at best the lower side of top 10. Which is nothing to complain about. He has been on the tour for a lot of years. It has always seemed like they just don't keep up with track changes.  Someone mentioned the 27 team struggling, you ever think the competition has a little to do with that ?



"Strange Wings"(Savatage
May 04, 2017 at 07:30:37 PM
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He didn't run that good last year did he? 



drw40
May 04, 2017 at 08:31:08 PM
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Posted By: longtimemitchfan on May 04 2017 at 04:56:59 PM

Not that I am a Ford basher but arent they running Ford in the 17,Joey has not been fast since crash in Florida.Alot of teams are struggling right now Pittman is missing something and Shane Stewart is still winless.

Last weekend was the worst i have seen Hodnett run in all the years hes raced in Pa.

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Hodnett and the Michael Heffner team were debuting a new car last weekend.  It, as you say, was not a good weekend.  I am sure they will get things ironed out quickly.



jtslingin
May 04, 2017 at 10:43:25 PM
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Joeys first time in a J&J may have something to do with it??? I know of another old fast guy coming back this year to a J&J so we'll see what happens...

 



razorback1772
May 04, 2017 at 11:03:01 PM
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Posted By: jtslingin on May 04 2017 at 10:43:25 PM

Joeys first time in a J&J may have something to do with it??? I know of another old fast guy coming back this year to a J&J so we'll see what happens...

 



I know he's had three new teams in the las four years or something close to that.... Donny Schatz has a for emblem on the side of his ride, so I don't know if it's a ford issue, though it would be interesting to see some dyno numbers!!??   



J&J
May 04, 2017 at 11:51:04 PM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on May 04 2017 at 04:10:28 PM

I would say the majority of the issue is indeed being on a new team, also one that is making it's inagural tour on the WoO. However, I do think that Saldana is getting to the point where he isn't gonna be one of the top dogs everyrace now. Not to say he won't be competitve but I think that with the influx of young talent the wins will be far and few between. I'd say he wins at max 3 races this year but that's just my relatively low valued opinion as a fan. He'd still smoke a lot of non-WoO drivers, just in WoO it's getting stronger each year lately.



To say Joey is on a "new team" not totally...He ran for Roth last year. Still has Roth on his car and under the hood.

still has the same crew chief swanky, as far as new team a new owner. But lots of his stuff is the same.

maybe it's the j and j Joey having a hard time. 

Has joey ever won an outlaw championship? And has he won the Knoxville nationals? And at what age did he start running the outlaws? Anyone have this info 



razorback1772
May 05, 2017 at 12:04:34 AM
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Posted By: J&J on May 04 2017 at 11:51:04 PM

To say Joey is on a "new team" not totally...He ran for Roth last year. Still has Roth on his car and under the hood.

still has the same crew chief swanky, as far as new team a new owner. But lots of his stuff is the same.

maybe it's the j and j Joey having a hard time. 

Has joey ever won an outlaw championship? And has he won the Knoxville nationals? And at what age did he start running the outlaws? Anyone have this info 



never won a WOO championship....no Nationals Win...I would say his Two Kings Royal Victories are his biggest wins? I think he's finished 2nd in WOO points a couple of times. 



Nickules
May 05, 2017 at 07:09:58 AM
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Posted By: razorback1772 on May 04 2017 at 11:03:01 PM

I know he's had three new teams in the las four years or something close to that.... Donny Schatz has a for emblem on the side of his ride, so I don't know if it's a ford issue, though it would be interesting to see some dyno numbers!!??   



No one is running a 410 Ford engine on tour...yet.  TSM is working with Ford on developing a 410 engine, but it's still in development.  One of Saldana's major sponsors is car dealership Elk Grove Ford, hence the ford logo...



FORD97
May 05, 2017 at 07:46:25 AM
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I don't place high expectations on brand new team combinations, regardless of driver. I have seen this team in person and it didn't look like a WoO team yet. Give them time to gell.

If I'm looking more objectively at the tour this year, my question would be "What's wrong with Shane Stewart?"


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MoOpenwheel
May 05, 2017 at 08:06:25 AM
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Posted By: FORD97 on May 05 2017 at 07:46:25 AM

I don't place high expectations on brand new team combinations, regardless of driver. I have seen this team in person and it didn't look like a WoO team yet. Give them time to gell.

If I'm looking more objectively at the tour this year, my question would be "What's wrong with Shane Stewart?"



Some may have forgotten or don't know that Shane is on his 3rd crewchief in 3 years. That has to be having an affect on his results. I'll always wonder what he and Paul Silva could accomplish on the big tour.



FORD97
May 05, 2017 at 08:36:42 AM
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Posted By: MoOpenwheel on May 05 2017 at 08:06:25 AM

Some may have forgotten or don't know that Shane is on his 3rd crewchief in 3 years. That has to be having an affect on his results. I'll always wonder what he and Paul Silva could accomplish on the big tour.



Institutional stability. I believe Donny Schatz is the best sprint car driver on the planet, but he also has solid backing and the best institutional stability in the sport. He's going to be at the top until one or more of those factors change.

Other teams that keep making constant changes chasing him are going in the wrong direction.


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Dryslick Willie
May 05, 2017 at 08:45:19 AM
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Posted By: J&J on May 04 2017 at 11:51:04 PM

To say Joey is on a "new team" not totally...He ran for Roth last year. Still has Roth on his car and under the hood.

still has the same crew chief swanky, as far as new team a new owner. But lots of his stuff is the same.

maybe it's the j and j Joey having a hard time. 

Has joey ever won an outlaw championship? And has he won the Knoxville nationals? And at what age did he start running the outlaws? Anyone have this info 



Joey did win 21 WoO races one year back when he was still with KKR.   He lost the championship that year because Schatz beat him on qualifying points if I remember correctly.    I'm sure this team will start running better, I think it's only a matter of time.  



Dryslick Willie
May 05, 2017 at 08:48:16 AM
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You know it's only May!   Plenty of racing season left.    I would look for improvement from Stewart, Saldana, and probably Pittman too.   Will it matter?    I guarantee you Schatz will get hot and we'll see if Gravel and the rest of those guys can keep up then.    At the end of the year I fully expect Schatz to be the champ again.



SprintFan16
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May 05, 2017 at 09:19:24 AM
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I know it's hard to say what have happened for certain, but Joey led 30+ laps of the Nationals A in 2009 before losing a nose wing sideboard. Schatz may have passed him anyways, but Joey easily could have been a Nationals winner if not for that bad luck.





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