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July 15, 2016 at
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Eldora's track record was set by Craig Dollansky back in 2002 at 12.707. 14 years later your lucky to see a car run under 13.5.... tonight you were lucky to see under 14. I understand the track gets slicked over the second night but it's simply not as fast as it used to be. Anyone care to explain? What am I missing?
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July 15, 2016 at
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Couple things. There was a little more banking in the track back then. Plus, the track was heavy that night, and they were wide open through the middle of the corner. Plus a few rule changes in the cars since then. I can not remember exactly when what rules were implemented, but I know the weight rule was around that time. Plus wing and tire rules have changed.
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July 15, 2016 at
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I'm thinking mainly the banking.
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July 15, 2016 at
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It just seems like the advances in technology would improve the cars enough to compensate for the banking loss and rule changes. Similar to the nhra top speeds from shortening the tracks. I believe they are back to running in the 330's like they were when it was a quarter mile. Not an apples to apples comparison but you get the idea.
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July 15, 2016 at
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The track is all packed down and sealed tight for those piece of shit trucks next Wednesday.
Fact.
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July 15, 2016 at
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Posted By: m_cox22 on July 15 2016 at 09:38:17 PM
Eldora's track record was set by Craig Dollansky back in 2002 at 12.707. 14 years later your lucky to see a car run under 13.5.... tonight you were lucky to see under 14. I understand the track gets slicked over the second night but it's simply not as fast as it used to be. Anyone care to explain? What am I missing?
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Its because their all Chevys....LOL
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July 16, 2016 at
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Posted By: saphead on July 15 2016 at 10:40:58 PM
The track is all packed down and sealed tight for those piece of shit trucks next Wednesday.
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Yes sir...........why did stewart ruin a historic track that Earl Created is beyond me.
every race this royal weekend and i mean every race has been won off the front row
the mystique of eldora is gone cause anyone can ride em high there which gives it no seperation from men and boys anymore
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July 16, 2016 at
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Posted By: dirtlover on July 16 2016 at 12:02:59 AM
Yes sir...........why did stewart ruin a historic track that Earl Created is beyond me.
every race this royal weekend and i mean every race has been won off the front row
the mystique of eldora is gone cause anyone can ride em high there which gives it no seperation from men and boys anymore
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That's why even though I only live an hour away, my money is staying in my pocket this weekend. I also would love to go see the big block Modifieds at Eldora next week, but with the pure stocks (trucks) there too, the track willasphalt. No thanks. asp
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July 16, 2016 at
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Posted By: m_cox22 on July 15 2016 at 09:38:17 PM
Eldora's track record was set by Craig Dollansky back in 2002 at 12.707. 14 years later your lucky to see a car run under 13.5.... tonight you were lucky to see under 14. I understand the track gets slicked over the second night but it's simply not as fast as it used to be. Anyone care to explain? What am I missing?
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Ain't just Eldora. The WoO came back to Devils Bowl three years ago after a nearly 10 year absence. You'd think the track record should have been at least equaled if not lowered, but they're at least a 1/2 second higher and maybe more on the second night. I'm thinking tires? Wings?
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July 16, 2016 at
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Looks like Knoxville's track record was set back in 2006 at a 14.4. last time the outlaws were there they ran 15.4. My thinking is its more the cars than the tracks.
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July 16, 2016 at
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Agree with the above sentiments on Eldora.. it's sad, really.
If conditions are right at Knoxville, max speed can be achieved. Shane Stewart ripped a 14.5 just last May before it rained. Track record speeds @ Knoxville don't usually yield good racing. The Dunkins purposely keep it slick with a decent bottom & top. 15.4 in June produced some pretty awesome racing, IMO.
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July 16, 2016 at
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Track was junk last night, amazing Thursday night. But never was the track record ever even close to being broke at the kings Royal. Fast qualifying there usually equals boring race. Nothing wrong with low 13's and having great features. I was dissapointed in the racing last night like everyone else because it was so good Thursday night, but comeon guys. Last spring they was qualifying 12.9's and ur telling me your going to bash the place because the tr hasn't been broken in 14 years?!?! I will say this, it won't be broken tonight but u can bet ur ass it'll be racy.
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July 16, 2016 at
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Posted By: dirtlover on July 16 2016 at 12:02:59 AM
Yes sir...........why did stewart ruin a historic track that Earl Created is beyond me.
every race this royal weekend and i mean every race has been won off the front row
the mystique of eldora is gone cause anyone can ride em high there which gives it no seperation from men and boys anymore
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that is incorrect my friend. jac won it from the second row (after being put back a row) in the B on thursday night...fact
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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July 16, 2016 at
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Werent most track records made pre weight rule??? I think that has a lot to do with it. I'm also not too sure what the big deal about a track record is. I don't care if we're 4 seconds off the track record, if the racing is good that's fine with me. Does anybody have a statistic on what the lap time was at the other Eldora Earl tried to build?
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July 16, 2016 at
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Once again NWFAN Sammy led every lap in winning the B on Thurs nite, Jac never even transferred, HELLO....
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July 16, 2016 at
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Posted By: dirtlover on July 16 2016 at 12:02:59 AM
Yes sir...........why did stewart ruin a historic track that Earl Created is beyond me.
every race this royal weekend and i mean every race has been won off the front row
the mystique of eldora is gone cause anyone can ride em high there which gives it no seperation from men and boys anymore
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The banking at Eldora was shaved off long before Tony purchased the track. I'm thinking they cut the banks down some where around "The Million" or shortly ater, About the time the "Prelude to the Dream" started.
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July 16, 2016 at
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I'd be curious to see what Dave Steel, Brian Gerster, Brian Tyler & Jeff Bloom could do tonight in their Must See Racing Xtreme winged pavement cars.
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July 16, 2016 at
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Track was lousy last night. It was great on Thursday, I am hoping for someting like we got on Thursday for tonight.
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July 16, 2016 at
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Posted By: MSPN on July 16 2016 at 09:33:54 AM
Once again NWFAN Sammy led every lap in winning the B on Thurs nite, Jac never even transferred, HELLO....
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lol...my bad. Heat race
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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July 16, 2016 at
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Posted By: Paintboss on July 16 2016 at 10:21:58 AM
The banking at Eldora was shaved off long before Tony purchased the track. I'm thinking they cut the banks down some where around "The Million" or shortly ater, About the time the "Prelude to the Dream" started.
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We need to research that because I'm leaning the other way. I'm quite certain the banking was changed after Tony purchased the track. I believe it was done from the bottom up. The wall heigth looks to have remained the same. Leads me to believe they brought dirt in and built the bottom and middle up to decrease the banking. But how it was done is only my guess.
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